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Tonight’s 2 big losers, and no, one is not Ted Cruz! (Vanity)
3 Friends driking Scotch tonight

Posted on 05/03/2016 9:16:33 PM PDT by Strac6

There are two huge losers tonight and neither of them is Ted Cruz. The Cruz campaign was dead in the water after the New York primary, and in his heart, Cruz knew it.

One of the realities of politics is that money is the grease that enables the political engine to go forward. Due to the stunning degree of Cruz’s loss in New York, and especially considering how much better than the poll expectations Trump did, Cruz fundraising was on pause after the New York primary two weeks ago.

As the election embarrassments continued for Cruz during the ACELA primaries, the fundraising stopped, DRT.

When you consider that Cruz was as much as eight points ahead of Trump in Indiana less than three weeks ago, and he suffered a blistering defeat tonight, the Cruz defeat /retreat/surrender was total, but certainly expected.

Simply put, Cruz had run out of ideas, supporters, and money simultaneously.

He will now begin to say very nice things about Donald Trump, with the hope that he can salvage something out of this campaign and not end up as nothing more than the punchline for bad standup comedian’s jokes.

The real losers tonight were Hillary and Kasich.

Hillary’s failure to perform anywhere near her polls is a clear and convincing indication that whatever support she has, beyond the 30% labor/gay/hard left that would support any Democrat even if we had an 8 x 10 Glossy of them shooting Santa Claus on Christmas Eve, is more shallow than the Bay of Fundy at low tide. One of the worst things for Hillary is that Gods are expected not to bleed, and tonight, she leaked all over the State of Indiana.

Tonight she lost her title as the presumptive candidate, and even worse than that, even her best supporters no longer assume even if nominated she would win the General Election.

There is an old “rule” that most candidates who are leading the Democratic presidential primary two years before the election never make it to the “finals.” You only have to look back to the recent Democratic front runners who were NOT nominated such as Clinton in 2008, Ed Muskie, Gary Hart, and so many more. “Scoop” Jackson, the Democratic Senator from Boeing, was so sure that he was a shoo-in in 1968, his wife had done everything but pick out the new White House China.

The bottom line on Hillary now; she is the Democratic “All-Star” who is about to go on the 21 year disabled list, and there is no one on the Democratic bench who has a chance. Unfortunately, there is one exception to that prior sentence and that would be a Biden/Warren ticket.

Despite all his prior protestations, if Clinton gets out, Biden/Warren will be in within 72 hours.

The big loser tonight on the Republican side is not Cruz but Gov. Kasich. Prior to Trump’s overwhelming win and Cruz’s surrender, Kasich was a bit of a kingmaker with his hundred plus delegates. If Donald Trump had been within 80 to 100 delegate votes to get the nomination on the first ballot, Kasich would have been in a position to demand virtually anything he wanted, with the possible exception of the vice presidency. Of course, being a reasonably smart man, Kasich would’ve called for a much more visible and important post then vice president.

After tonight, if Kasich campaign officials were to ask Trump campaign officials what they should do with their hundred plus first ballot votes, Trump officials might tell them to dispose of them in an exceptionally anatomically painful way.

If tonight’s Indiana Republican primary was a Las Vegas high-stakes poker game, at this hour Donald Trump would be in the 26th floor penthouse celebrating his victory with the world’s finest champagne, Cruz would be in his 1993 Chevrolet headed back to Encino, and Gov. Kasich still be sitting at the table with a moderately large pile of totally worthless chips in front of them, wondering what just happened.

Strap on your seatbelts boys and girls; it’s going to be a hell of a next six months!


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KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2016gopprimary; election2016; tedcruz; texas
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To: dr_lew

“Farding” is a double entendre, the way it’s pronounced.

The Trumpist label has a double meaning, in that Rush pretends that he thinks it’s innocent, while it has a negative meaning to Trump supporters.

Are you just bummed out at Cruz’s crushing defeat?


101 posted on 05/04/2016 12:12:01 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: sargon

Lane did convince the jury.

I also like Roger Stone’s theory that LBJ was behind the hit, but again, I don’t know enough to judge it on the evidence. Interesting is all.


102 posted on 05/04/2016 12:18:47 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: MUDDOG
“Farding” is a double entendre, the way it’s pronounced.

Well, that's a pun, and I don't think it qualifies as a double entendre, which requires ambiguity in a fully parsed expression.

The Trumpist label has a double meaning, in that Rush pretends that he thinks it’s innocent, while it has a negative meaning to Trump supporters.

Ah, here we are.

A: I don't think this approaches double entendre. Perhaps innuendo.

Are you just bummed out at Cruz’s crushing defeat?

B: Trump for President!

103 posted on 05/04/2016 12:42:34 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: cba123
He ran a tough race. Now he stood down. Mr. Trump said today, Cruz ran a very tough race.

I hope the two of them work things out, and that Mr. Trump finds a good position for Mr. Cruz.

As a Trump supporter (so you know my bias) this was Senator Cruz's last chance to bow out gracefully and he did. I can now believe that the things he did were because he was desperately trying to win and thought he was the best man for the job. But now realizes that it is important for our country to defeat Clinton and set his personal ambitions aside.

I won't argue fine points that maybe he should have done it earlier. He got the message sent by the voters of Indiana and wasted no time. That's what a top class politician does. We are all a little bruised from this campaign but now it's time to focus on what's important for our country and that's getting Donald Trump elected.

Good Luck to Senator Cruz going forward. Perhaps with his support the Republican Party and the USA can change for the better.

104 posted on 05/04/2016 12:44:09 AM PDT by stig
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To: AndyTheBear

It’ll be a difficult argument for Bernie to make, as Hillary still leads him by +3mil popular votes. Making it easy for them to fall back on the rationalization that her delegate totals reflect a democratic outcome.


105 posted on 05/04/2016 12:48:34 AM PDT by Utmost Certainty
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To: dennisw
"Very few men with normal testosterone levels will vote for Hillary. The only men voting for her will be on the Gov't tit one way or another. Could be via Gov't employment"

So much this. Bubba was hereabouts yesterday and one of the nets live-streamed a big chunk of Bubba speech to one of the fine local Amish orgs, and Bubba went on and on subtly defending NAFTA and globalism viz trade; and I thought, not only is he wrong, but he's giving a speech about trade to a room full of teachers, bus drivers, and asst govt titters. They golf-clapped intermittently to be polite but he could have been reading the phone book for all they cared.

Wow Cankles is so done right out of the gate...she literally has no chance in November. And that's why Tedlim stayed in - something the OP missed along with every single other vanity pundit. And that is the one and only thing I will cut Tedlim some slack on - '16 is constructed to be a non-Democrat election the exact same way '08 was constructed to be a non-GOP election - albeit '08 ended up Bobo's coronation instead of Cankles. Now she's out of order and will never win, as this time was supposed to be Yeb!s turn.

106 posted on 05/04/2016 1:09:28 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Too bad your overhauled unicorn start-up failed, Ted.")
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To: TheConservator

Bingo. This thread shows that about 20% them have class, or at least the wit to pretend so.


107 posted on 05/04/2016 1:22:38 AM PDT by boomstick (One of the fingers on the button will be German.)
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To: Strac6
“Carly Fiorina”

I remember that name from somewhere...

If my memory serves me, she is the one who almost sunk HP.

108 posted on 05/04/2016 2:08:20 AM PDT by dearolddad (/i>)
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To: facedown

I voted for Cruz a week or two before that event. I’d have had a very hard time doing so after.


109 posted on 05/04/2016 2:10:48 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: JediJones
"Ted Cruz will be the presumptive nominee as soon as he enters the next Republican primary."

In 2020, Paul Ryan - with the full weight of the GOPe - would crush (ex-Senator) Ted Cruz like a bug.

110 posted on 05/04/2016 2:40:04 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Too bad your overhauled unicorn start-up failed, Ted.")
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To: Reno89519
Cruz is nothing more than a bad footnote in this election. A first term junior senator, a serial liar, and a Canadian natural born citizen. The losers are all of the people that ignored the Constitution and their conservative principles to support him.

Really? Trump won and you're still trying to alienate Cruz supporters? It's about time that those of us who voted for Trump (as I did a week ago today) acted like adults.

This is not a difficult concept: Personal insults directed at Cruz or at his voters do not make it more likely for the 30% of republican voters who preferred Cruz to vote Trump in November. That conduct makes it more likely for Hillary to win. Please give it some thought and start acting like a gracious winner - even if it's an act.

111 posted on 05/04/2016 3:08:54 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: dearolddad

“Carly Fiorina”

Or as one FReeper put it, the shortest lived VP nominee in history.


112 posted on 05/04/2016 3:11:54 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The Constitution is an instrument for the people to restrain the government...Patrick Henry)
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To: Reno89519

Your move is to be as gracious a winner as Mr. Trump. So far, you are failing miserably!

I have been a Trump Volunteer as well as supporter on FR, crossing sabers with Cruz and Kasich supporters here as well as the aaDU trolls.

The list of so-called “Conservatiives” who refuse to vote for Mr. Trump is a list of the GOPe wing of the DC Uni-Party and some loons out in right field.

Last night, an effective opposition to the DC Uni-Party was born. We now have a chance to retrieve our Republic after the deprevations which started under Wilson.


113 posted on 05/04/2016 3:50:48 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Remember...after the primaries, we better still be on the same team!)
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To: catnipman

I believe Hillary won’t be the candidate either; she could very credibly claim poor health as the reason. There is no enthusiasm for her, and if anyone was going to drive blacks, young people, and even Hispanics to vote elsewhere or stay home it is Hillary.


114 posted on 05/04/2016 3:50:50 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: bigbob

LOL I hadn’t thought of that: Fiorina downsizes again.


115 posted on 05/04/2016 4:00:12 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Zenjitsuman

I agree. It was the business with his father. Rafael B. Cruz ( or whomever he really is) does not hold up under scrutiny. The Cruz family story was unravelling because the FOIA documents retrieved conflict with the story.

And Ted is not eligible, everyone keeps forgetting that.


116 posted on 05/04/2016 4:02:40 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Snickering Hound
Blew through $150 million for not a single delegate.

And what did Mr. Trump say last night, his delegates to date spending just $900,000.

That is a lot of bang for the buck.

117 posted on 05/04/2016 4:40:34 AM PDT by Dustoff45 (Make a new Declaration of Dependence on our constitution.)
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To: Strac6

Look for calls in Ohio for Gov. Kasich to come home and be a good Governor in the next few weeks.


118 posted on 05/04/2016 4:49:34 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: MUDDOG

Thank you! I will put on my reading list...I have more time now that I am not listening to Levin and Limbaugh ;)


119 posted on 05/04/2016 5:12:32 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism!!)
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To: AndyTheBear; pogo101; cba123

Powerful wisdom. Stop fighting the last battle and move on to the next.

We can’t afford to waste rounds on targets that have been eliminated.

With regard to the democrat primaries and convention, the obese diva has not even begun to warm up. They have not had a chance to count the votes from the FBI primary, and Hillary has not passed a physical exam.

Our final opponent wil not be known until the end of the democrat convention, if then.

Hillary, Bernie, Bidden/Warren or TBD. I would not bet for or against any of them at this point.

Head on a swivel, focus on the objective, and engage the targets that remain.

We can hold the Kangaroo Court and assess the bar fines after we finish celebrating victory on January 22, 2017


120 posted on 05/04/2016 5:14:55 AM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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