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#NeverTrump Digs In
RightWisconsin.com ^ | April 25, 2016 | Charlie Sykes

Posted on 04/25/2016 6:47:41 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob

In the wake of the New York primary, there is a sense that some of the GOP elites are making their peace with the Trumpocalypse. To be sure, some of the party’s leaders are resisting Trump’s faux charm offensive, but there is also a palpable mood of defeatism among the Invertebrate.

Yet in hallway chatter here, there was a growing sense of resignation about Trump as the nominee

That mood is likely to spread after this week’s expected primary wins for Trump in the northeast. Some party leaders aren’t waiting. Reince Priebus is calling on anti-Trump activists to unite behind him if he is the nominee. Even Marco Rubio , who surely understands the reality of Trumpism as well as anyone in national politics, now suggests he would back him in a general election.

All of this comes amid growing evidence of Trump’s unelectability. Polls shows suggest he trails Hillary Clinton by double digits and analyses of the electoral college put the chances of a Clinton blowout somewhere between likely and “O my God.”

As Tim Carney notes : “Trump would be the least-respected, least-liked major party nominee since polling began.” As a result, anti-Trump groups rejected the call for rallying around a Trumpist GOP...

(Excerpt) Read more at rightwisconsin.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antitrump; gop; marklevin; nevertrump; sabotage; sykes; trump
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To: JBW1949

There is quite a difference between getting about 1/3 of one party behind you in a multi-way race and winning the general election.


41 posted on 04/25/2016 7:30:36 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: GregoTX
RCP:

General Election: Trump vs. Clinton GWU/Battleground
Clinton 46, Trump 43 Clinton +3

Yep! Double digits! /S

42 posted on 04/25/2016 7:30:49 AM PDT by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Sideshow Bob

I smell ozone in your future


43 posted on 04/25/2016 7:33:24 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Bushbacker1
Show me the polls...

(General Election: Trump vs. Clinton Polling Data)

44 posted on 04/25/2016 7:34:42 AM PDT by GregoTX
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To: Sideshow Bob

Careful, Charlie Sykes, you might strip your own threads — you’re already screwed into Cruz too tightly.


45 posted on 04/25/2016 7:39:15 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Boogieman

Having 1/3 of the party behind is much better than having 1/5 or 1/8 behind you, don’t you think???

So, if Trump is the nominee, you are going to stay home or vote for Hillary???


46 posted on 04/25/2016 7:43:04 AM PDT by JBW1949
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To: JBW1949

He isn’t running away with votes or delegates. Whatever label you want to put on it: Other than Trump, Anti-Trump, or #NeverTrump, it has more votes than Trump does, which makes him the least liked.

8,722,467 Trump
6,389,500 Cruz
3,445,578 Rubio
3,178,315 Kasich

13,013,393 Cruz + Rubio + Kasich
09,567,815 Cruz + Kasich


47 posted on 04/25/2016 7:43:28 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Sideshow Bob
I think Trump will surge and win in the genreral election. His strong negatives in current polling is based primarily on a combination of conservatives who see him as too libereral but will (rightly) see Hillary as worse, and non conservatives who still have the notion he is a racist. After the convention there will likely be some unity on the conservative side. After the first debate non conservatives will realize he is not a crazy racist and his negatives will plummet. Meanwhile he will have his positives Hillary lacks...enthusiastic support and the ability to draw from independents and across the aisle in a big way. Hillary will have some negatives go down after the Democrat convention from unity too...but the negatives due to corruption and her abysimal negative charisma will drag her back down again. Her ability to attract independents or Republicans is precariously limited to the false notion that trump is a racist and nevertrump conservatives making sour grape threats.

I think the article is right about it being a blowout...just not the way they thought.

48 posted on 04/25/2016 7:44:09 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Sideshow Bob

Kasich just made a fool of himself on CNN. He got mobbed by reporters and got suckered into saying people should still vote for him in Indiana


49 posted on 04/25/2016 7:47:38 AM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: exit82
Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, the Heritage Foundation & the House Conservative Caucus are the only ones who have regularly fought against the leftists in DC (and yes, that includes the GOP).

But a handful of people here at FR whom I used to respect are instead siding with the carny barker.

One of my biggest complaints against Trump has been that - win or lose - his rise will harm the conservative movement.

Again, I firmly believe:

So, should anti-Trump forces sit down, shut up, and vote Trump? Only if they want to contribute to the continued dilution of conservatism into a meaningless word that can act as a mask for leftist policy.

The eventual primacy of conservatism as the operational ideology within government bodies and leadership is what is most important to me - more important than winning in November with Trump and a GOPe he will NOT reform, more important than stopping Hillary, more important than the illegal immigration Donald really does NOT intend to stop, more important than the wall he will NOT build, more important than the Planned Parenthood he will NOT stop, etc.

50 posted on 04/25/2016 7:48:46 AM PDT by Sideshow Bob (#nevertrump)
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To: samtheman
Trump will beat hillary. Easily.

But can he beat internal GOP forces bent on his destruction, like Cruz and Kasich?

-PJ

51 posted on 04/25/2016 7:51:12 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“which makes him the least liked.”

8,722,467 Trump
6,389,500 Cruz
3,445,578 Rubio
3,178,315 Kasich

I can play that game too: Trump+Rubio+Kasich =

Tell me again which of the 4 are least liked. I’m smelling Common Core math.


52 posted on 04/25/2016 7:55:30 AM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: Sideshow Bob

SB, I don’t agree when you say Trump won’t do the things he has said he will do.

I do know that anyone in DC will never do anything they say they will do, and we have 25 years of experience to prove it.

We had a course correction with Reagan.

There has been none since 1990, when the elder Bush went NWO on us.

Trump offers one.

The rest of the GOP offers none—same old, same old.

“Conservatism” is just another word the GOP has trashed in order to keep us all on the plantation.

It may mean something to us, but I assure you, it means nothing to them.

Look at the people and forces arrayed against Trump—surely you don’t describe them as “conservative”.

The lying, stealing, backstabbing and double dealing shenanigans going on right now have nothing to do with principles nor conservatism.

I’ll take a chance on Trump, but never with the garbage the GOP intends to serve us this time around.

Not gonna happen.


53 posted on 04/25/2016 7:55:31 AM PDT by exit82 (Road Runner sez:" Let's Make America Beeping Great Again! Beep! Beep!")
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To: samtheman
Trump will beat hillary. Easily.

From your lips, to God's ears.

I remember how confident we were of defeating the nobody, black, first term senator though.

Hillary is the most defeatable candidate since George McGovern. Trump is the "least liked"... something has got to give...

54 posted on 04/25/2016 7:58:49 AM PDT by Paradox (My positions can evolve, but Principles should be immutable.)
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To: Sideshow Bob

For me, the main thing I am taking from the column is Charlie’s conclusion:

So, should anti-Trump forces sit down, shut up, and vote Trump? Only if they want to contribute to the continued dilution of conservatism into a meaningless word that can act as a mask for leftist policy.


Dear Charlie Sykes. You did your best in Wisconsin along with the GOPe, Democrats, national media, Paul Ryan, and fellow GOPe conservative talk and media sell outs. The group did manage to put Cruz over the top but not by enough to keep Teump from winning some delegates. You and the others threw everything at him, he survived and is now stronger than ever. Between the events in Wisconsin, the delegate theft in Colorado, the other delegate antics, and exposure of Levin and Limbaugh as total sell outs the people are now on the downhill to taking back the leadership of the party through Donald Teump.

Cruz was once one of my favorite candidates but the actions of his campaign and him personally has pushed me far away from him as a candidate, I still do not know why he went off the deep end personally but it has finished off his career as a national candidate.

The actions of the #NeverTrump movement has damaged the GOP at the local and state level worse than they imagine, Many have worked to get majorities in local and Stare races and to provide majorities in the House and Senate only to see the GOP leadership turn their backs on those who have worked so hard. They will never have that support this fall unless Trump is the nominee.

I will vote against Hillary no matter what and I would vote to keep the house and Senate as Republican as possible. However, I am an active worker. Many of those who are coming out for Trump have not been active ever in politics or in the case of older voters have not been active since Reagan.

Each is entitled to his or her vote and opinion. I respect that. But, there comes a time when fighting the good fight is no longer worth it unless to protect the direct life of family. In my opinion we are at the point where all of us who oppose Hillary should work to ensure Trump is our nominee and that he defeats Hillary.


55 posted on 04/25/2016 7:59:08 AM PDT by georgiarat (Obama, providing incompetence since Day One!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

If you like to play with numbers, here one for you.

1,077,221...that’s the number of voters Trump got in Florida...and that’s the number of voters who will stay home instead of voting for Cruz in the general.


56 posted on 04/25/2016 7:59:26 AM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Your candidate just said on CNN that he will abolish thee IRS as well as 4 more Departments and 25 agencies. Tell me again how Cruz wins the state of Virginia?


57 posted on 04/25/2016 8:06:08 AM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: MaxistheBest

So you are saying that the Trump voters won’t support Cruz? But you expect the Cruz supporters to support Trump?

Seems like a lose-lose scenario.


58 posted on 04/25/2016 8:06:28 AM PDT by mrpotatohead
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To: Sideshow Bob
"As Tim Carney notes : “Trump would be the least-respected, least-liked major party nominee [by the political establishment, influence peddlers and other hangers on ] since polling began.”"
59 posted on 04/25/2016 8:10:20 AM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: JBW1949

“If Trump is the “least liked” and least respected”, why is he running away with the popular votes and the delegates????”

You’re not supposed to ask that. It spoils the weasel narrative.


60 posted on 04/25/2016 8:12:06 AM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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