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PETER HITCHENS: America isn't our special friend. It ruined our Navy, Empire and future
dailymail.com ^ | 4/24/2016 | Peter Hitchens

Posted on 04/24/2016 6:22:49 AM PDT by Nextrush

Now will we grasp that the United States is not our friend, but a foreign country whose interests are often different from ours?

President Obama's blatant intervention in our internal affairs is not a sudden breach of a soppy 'special relationship'. The USA's only real special relationship is with Saudi Arabia, a 70-year old hard pact of oil, money and power, welded together with such cynicism it out to make up gasp.

Barack Obama's open desire for us to stay inside the EU is by no means the first or worst example of White House meddling here in these islands. Bill Clinton forced us to cave to the Provisional IRA in 1998 and his successor, George W. Bush, continued the policy by making us to Sinn Fein's bidding afterwards.

Washington came close to scuppering our recapture of the Falklands in 1982. And with the current state of our Armed Forces, which can nowadays do nothing without American support, I often wonder how the White House and the Pentagon would behave if Argentina once again seized Port Stanley.

If anyone thinks Hillary Clinton is a great friend of Britain, they're in for a big surprise.

But surely the Americans fought with us should to shoulder against the Kaiser and Hitler? Not exactly. The USA (quite rightly) fought for its own interest in both great wars, not for us.

When we ran out of money after the First World War, Washington seized the chance to force us to limit our Navy, and so began to overtake us as the world's major naval power. We had feared Germany would do this. It is one of the great ironies of history that the USA ended British sea power.

In the blackest months of the Second World War, just after the fall of France.....

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To: Telepathic Intruder

You make a good point, but understand that Franklin Roosevelt met the King of Saudi Arabia met on a warship in early 1945 right after Yalta.

The USA is in relationship with a nation whose citizens hate our country, too. So much they have committed acts of terrorism against it and put money into terrorism and above all preached the hatred all over the world.

Saudi money is propping up our national debt right now and Saudi money is all over our economy and so on.


21 posted on 04/24/2016 6:35:49 AM PDT by Nextrush ( FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: MadIsh32

The Magna Carta, the notion of constitutional government, the ideals of John Locke- all British. The US wouldn’t exist without them.


22 posted on 04/24/2016 6:36:43 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: MadIsh32
After his first hysterical paragraphs he calms down a bit and acknowledges that we are only doing what Britain would be doing if they still had great power. And he acknowledges America's fears of being dragged into another European war without the EU. I would venture that we already have been dragged in - Kosovo, anyone?! So everyone should read the entire editorial once past his initial insults.
23 posted on 04/24/2016 6:37:13 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: Nextrush
Barack Obama’s open desire for us to stay inside the EU is by no means the first or worst example of White House meddling here in these islands. Bill Clinton forced us to cave to the Provisional IRA in 1998 and his successor, George W. Bush, continued the policy by making us (d)o Sinn Féin’s bidding afterwards. …
Nobody made Britain do any of that. Her own Prime Ministers embraced such policies of their own will.

And frankly, those presidents were acting in subservience to the EU in whatever capacity they went about such bad policy. As were the involved PMs.
24 posted on 04/24/2016 6:37:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: MadIsh32
.. However the British empire’s actions during WW1, and at the Paris peace conference helped cement and create the greatest evil in the world today: Saudi Arabia ..

What demented codswallop. Get back into the restraints before you injure yourself:


25 posted on 04/24/2016 6:38:47 AM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (It's them or us.)
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To: Buttons12

He sounds rather like a raving lunatic, what?

He’s usually a very reasonable and intelligent man. He’s Christopher Hitchens brother. I’ve read some of his books before. Christopher was a well known and respected atheist. Peter is a defender of Christianity.

Peter’s article is an example of what Obama does to people. He makes me at times sound like a raving lunatic too.


26 posted on 04/24/2016 6:38:59 AM PDT by boycott (--s)
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To: MadIsh32

So it’s a yes, then.

No fall of the Ottomans, no state of Israel. So that’s where you’re coming from.


27 posted on 04/24/2016 6:39:05 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: miss marmelstein; All

Maybe the Brits could have a commemorative anniversary attack on Washington like they did in 1814, and burn down the White House again, 202 years later?

With Barky in it of course. LOL


28 posted on 04/24/2016 6:39:55 AM PDT by mkjessup (Cruz is an oily crap weasel who sold out to the GOPe and his deluded cultists need to wake-TF up.)
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To: Nextrush

And Saudi money is in the pockets of all of our sleazy politicians.

The British must understand that our government’s love affair with Saudi Arabia does not trickle down to the population. We despise the Saudis for obvious reasons. And, hey, it’s not like the Brits don’t do business with them. When I lived in London in the late 70s, the obnoxious and vicious Saudis were all over the place. That’s where I first learned to hate them.


29 posted on 04/24/2016 6:40:06 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

You post pictures, but cannot refute the facts that without British help, modern day Saudi Arabia would not exist.

The House of Saud owes its existence to Lawrence and British actions in Paris 1919


30 posted on 04/24/2016 6:40:45 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: mkjessup

Are you kidding? Barky would stand on Capital Hill applauding the burning!


31 posted on 04/24/2016 6:40:47 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: Olog-hai

No fall of the Ottomans; no Saudi Arabia, no 9/11 funding, no extremist mosques being built worldwide, no ISIS.

That is where I am coming from.


32 posted on 04/24/2016 6:41:51 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: Nextrush
The USA's only real special relationship is with Saudi Arabia, a 70-year old hard pact of oil, money and power, welded together with such cynicism it out to make up gasp. That's one hell of a truth bomb. And how true it is. The one common thread in all the disastrous wars we've been in since the 9/11 event we now know was orchestrated by these very same Saudis is that from Afghanistan to Iraq to Libya to Syria and beyond we have been doing their dirty work for them.
33 posted on 04/24/2016 6:42:38 AM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Nextrush

The Brits should pull out of the EU and UN. The US didn’t destroy thrir “empire”, they pulled dissolved it. And Ba rack Hussein Obama, an enemy of western civilization, dosen’t speak for most Americans.


34 posted on 04/24/2016 6:42:39 AM PDT by ZULU (Trump is the answer. The Establishment is the problem.)
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To: Olog-hai

PETER HITCHENS: America isn’t our special friend. It ruined our Navy, Empire and future

Oh yes. England is still speaking English aren’t they? Who was it that kept their fat out of the fire?

AMERICA!


35 posted on 04/24/2016 6:43:19 AM PDT by JayAr36 (At 80 I thought I had seen it all. America is swirling in the toilet now.)
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To: thoughtomator

I don’t have to agree with everything Peter Hitchens says, but I like reading his ‘truth bombs’.

We all need more of them.


36 posted on 04/24/2016 6:44:08 AM PDT by Nextrush ( FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Olog-hai

There is certainly a masochistic quality to modern-day British pundits who blame America for everything they don’t approve of. Always victims. But, of course, they vote in the party that makes decisions that prove unpopular with the general population. Maybe, like us, they need to get better candidates for their various offices.


37 posted on 04/24/2016 6:44:23 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Turks (Muslims))
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To: miss marmelstein

It has been speculated that if the 1920 Washington Naval Treaty hadn’t been signed, by 1930 we would have been at war.


38 posted on 04/24/2016 6:44:39 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Nextrush
Hey UK, Obama and the Left is not America's special friend either.
39 posted on 04/24/2016 6:44:40 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (When a man loves cats, I am his friend and comrade, without further introduction. - Mark Twain)
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To: knarf

They wasted no time before joining the bash Trump bandwagon just before it went off the tracks. They will get no sympathy from me. And they deserve no special treatment. I have no problem with what Obama said. He’ll no doubt find a way to screw that up shortly.


40 posted on 04/24/2016 6:45:26 AM PDT by Helicondelta
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