Posted on 04/20/2016 11:58:05 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Congratulations to our presumptive nominee, Donald Trump!
Great job in New York and throughout this campaign. Cruz and Kasich are now mathematically eliminated and just like all the others who were mathematically eliminated should concede and drop out so we can all unite behind our nominee and prepare to defeat the godless America-hating traitor Hillary Clinton in November.
As conservatives and patriots, it's time to put bruised egos behind us, heal our differences and act united in the best interests of our nation. The media and the GOPe will try to keep us divided, of course, but we must not fall for their treasonous tricks.
A divided Republican party will ensure Hillary waltzes into the White House in November.
Freedom is never more than one generation from extinction. Hillary would be a third term for Obama and would complete his mission of completely destroying America.
Do not let freedom expire on our watch!!
I'm praying this forum and our loyal members will now be shifting into high gear to defend our freedom by uniting against the treasonous enemy within.
Let's get Trump over the 1237 mark and finally take the GOPe completely out of the picture!!
Then onward to the presidency in November!!
“his past record of supporting more liberal policies.”
Sorry, your lie was debunked by JimRob a couple of
days ago:
“Some people claim that Trump only recently arrived at most of these viewpoints, so I’d like to discuss Trump’s history with each of these issues (sorry for the length but I think these important topics deserve to be delved into).
I was told yesterday that Trump is a liberal Democrat.
Trumps political registration records since 1987 are public and available online. During this period, Trump has been a registered Republican for more than twice as long as he was a registered Democrat. If people would bother to read his books, look at the full-page ads he took out on policy issues in the 1980s, and watch his old interviews in their entirety, it should become clear to them that he was never an actual liberal and was always to the right of Rudy Giuliani for example. Most of the people attacking Trump from the right only have heard bits and pieces of the full story of his past views or they are prone to great exaggeration about his current positions. He has always leaned towards a nationalist-populist stance that places the safety and economic security of Americans first. Some people may not see that as conservative, but it is fundamentally about conserving the nation.
My reply:
Build the wall. Enforce the law. Deport them all. End sanctuary cities. End anchor babies. Slap a moratorium on muslim immigration.
Already in his 2000 book, The America We Deserve, Trump was talking about the problems of an open border and illegals (”America is experiencing serious social and economic difficulty with illegal immigrants who are flooding across our borders It is a scandal when America cannot control its own borders It comes down to this: we must take care of our own people first. Our policy to people born elsewhere should be clear: Enter by the law, or leave.”). He made clear that he thought Americans’ interests (which includes safety) should be put first, which is the main reason for his Muslim entry moratorium proposal now. In 2011, he said on OReilly and in a CBN interview thats on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWzDAvemJG8) that the world has a Muslim problem, because of all the Islamic terrorist attacks.
By 2011 in his book, Time to Get Tough, he was calling for a border wall, many more border patrol agends, an end to citizenship for anchor babies, and deportation of illegal criminals. In a similar vain to his speeches now, he wrote: Look, if a nation cant protect its own borders, it ceases to be a country. He explicitly wanted U.S. immigration laws wholeheartedly enforced (This wholesale abdication of a presidents constitutional duties is as shocking as it is foolish Sacrificing American laws on the altar of political expediency is immoral).
In 2013 in multiple tweets, his CPAC speech, and an interview with the Breitbart website, he said the proposed amnesty bill was a “monstrosity” and would be the death of the Republican Party.
Its true that Trump only came around to the idea of actively working to deport all non-criminal illegals last year, but too many Cruz supporters throw up an example or two of his older position on deportations to pretend that he hasnt been very hardline on securing the border, a separate but related issue, for many years now. (And while were on the subject, why did Cruz as recently as Dec. use weasel words to avoid committing to actively working to deport illegals? I listened to him do that twice with my own ears.)
Cut the taxes. Cut the spending. Cut the regulations. Cut the government. Cut the debt. Cut the EPA.
Even in the 1980s, Trump was clearly for fighting government wastefulness and ineptitude and for less regulations on business and cutting back on the bureaucracy. His most famous book, The Art of the Deal (1987), is replete with stories of government overregulation that made doing business an extraordinary challenge. In the Wollman Rink story and some of the nonsense about the NYC convention center especially, Trump exposed the tendency of the government to be incompetent and to egregiously waste taxpayer dollars. Throughout the book, he clearly saw cutting costs and working as efficiently as possible as huge positives. He also discussed the challenges the city government was having with building over the water on, I think, the Hudson River because of hand-tying environmental regulations. In The America We Deserve (2000), he attacked bureaucrats as morons and coined the term buron (a portmanteau of bureaucrat and moron).
In a 1987 full-page newspaper ad, in which he mainly criticized the trade deficit, he called for federal tax cuts. Its true that in The America We Deserve (2000), he called for a one-time wealth tax on the very rich to pay off the national debt, but he thought that the ensuing economic boom (that he believed eliminating the debt would create) would more than make up the money lost for most wealthy people. He saw a large national debt as a threat to the future of the country. Overall, he called for much lower taxes for the middle class and effusively praised Giuliani’s reduction of taxes in NYC, specifying each tax cut Guiliani enacted and what the benefits of each were. He spent more of the book talking about tax cuts than discussing his one-time tax increase for a tiny percentage of Americans that had a conservative end goal.
Repeal ObamaCare. Get the feds out and allow health insurance to be sold over state lines.
Trump actually entitled one of his chapters in Time to Get Tough (2011), Repeal Obamacare. He wrote in depth about all the negatives of Obamacare, and its something he mentions in almost all of his speeches. (What he specifically wants to replace it with is on his website under positions.)
A lot of conservatives are troubled that in The America We Deserve (2000), Trump said that the ultimate goal of the country should be single-payer health care for all. He has since backtracked on this, but even there, he spent a few sentences on single-payer and made it clear that was something for the future and not now. He then spent the rest of the chapter saying that there were many things we could do now to improve our private health care system as it was then in 2000. The main thing he focused on was—wait for it—eliminating state insurance boundaries and state specific regulations so that insurance buyers would have more (and cheaper) choices. What did he say that Obamacare should be replaced with eleven years later in Time to Get Tough? Allowing insurance to be sold over state lines. It seems obvious what aspect of health care hes always been most eager to change, and it has nothing to do with single-payer.
Send education back to states.
In The America We Deserve (2000), he called out the damage that teachers unions and federal centralization were doing to the education system. He wanted school choice, decentralization, the ability to fire incompetent teachers, etc. His opposition to Common Core is totally consistent with his stances from over a decade and a half ago.
Get a handle on trade. Make trade deals in our own best interests. Bring back capital. Bring back manufacturing. Bring back jobs. Strengthen the economy.
Already by the 1980s, Trump was talking repeatedly about remedying the trade imbalance and about how we were getting ripped off by foreign nations because of our incompetent leaders and negotiators (as shown by his 1987 full-page ad in the NY Times and WaPo and in several interviews, including one with Oprah thats on YouTube). This was the main topic of his first political speech in 1988 in New Hampshire (discussed in the somewhat slanted article: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/02/donald-trump-first-campaign-speech-new-hampshire-1987-213595).
He later went into this issue in much more depth in Time to Get Tough (2011) in his chapter on China, which especially criticized China for monetary devaluation that made their goods dirt cheap and our goods uncompetitive, costing us many manufacturing jobs. He wants to use leverage to renegotiate trade deals, with tariffs used as a last resort if certain foreign nations insist on taking advantage of us and refuse to negotiate fairer deals (Open markets are the ideal, but if one guy is cheating the whole time, how is that free trade?).
Defend the second amendment.
A lot of people criticize him for writing sixteen years ago in The America We Deserve that he was in favor of banning assault weapons. In that book, however, he actually spent more time criticizing gun control than he did calling for it. In particular, he condemned the Democrats for wanting to take away law-abiding citizens’ handguns, which he thought would serve to leave only the criminals armed (he’s very tough on crime in the book). Even with the support for a ban on assault weapons at the time, his overall position on guns was actually quite conservative for a New Yorker (not to even mention that he wrangled a very hard to get concealed carry permit for himself in NYC). He has recently said that his sons, who are big hunters and NRA members, helped convince him to move more to the right on this issue.
As I mentioned, he was very hardcore tough on crime and pro-police in The America We Deserve. He eviscertated those who excuse criminals and put their welfare above that of innocent citizens, especially judges who are soft on criminals or let them out of prison prematurely. On the other hand, he lavished praise on mayors like Giuliani who cracked down on crime. This attitude was evidenced earlier too in a 1988 full-page newspaper ad which called for hard anti-crime measures and a reinstatement of the death penalty in NY.
Defend religious freedom. Appoint constitutional conservative judges.
Pushing for religious freedom seems to be a new thing for him that started when some pastors told him (apparently to his surprise) that they held back on political involvement because of fear of losing their tax exempt status. About religion more generally, he has talked in the past about how his former pastor, Norman Vincent Peale, influenced him. He included a photo of his confirmation class as a young teenager at the First Presbyterian Church of Jamaica, Queens in Surviving at the Top (1990), Time to Get Tough (2011), and Crippled America (2015). Its obviously a favorite photo of his.
I dont remember him talking much about judges before the last few months (except to criticize Roberts on Twitter for the Obamacare rulings when they came down), but he did talk glowingly of the First Amendment in The America We Deserve (2000). He said in his recent press conference at the Old Post Office in D.C. that he is working with the Heritage Foundation to create a list of around 10 conservative judges that he would commit to choosing from for his Supreme Court picks. Once that list is ready, Trumps opponents will no longer seriously be able to claim that he will appoint leftists or even moderates to the highest court.
Rebuild our military. Bomb the shit out of ISIS (and take their oil).
By 2000, he was for cracking down hard on terrorism, which he saw as a big growing threat. Terrorism was also a topic that he criticized Bill Clinton and his administration over in his book. The threat of terrorism was a large focus of The America We Deserve. He devoted a whole chapter to it, plus discussed it in various other places in the book. This was, of course, the book where he mentioned Osama Bin Ladin before 9/11.
In Time to Get Tough (2011), he was for strengthening the military, but using it more judiciously (Only go to war to win). He devoted an entire chapter to Taking the Oil. He predicted that the Iraqis would never be able to keep control over it themselves. In regard to foreign policy he wrote: American interests come first. Always. No apologies.
End political correctness. Take the GOP head-on. Take the media head-on. Take the liberals head-on. And win, baby, win.
His whole life hes been excessively frank and often called out over it (think for example of the old Phil Donahue interview where Donahue unsuccessfully tried to get Trump to take back his calling NYCs Democratic mayor Ed Koch a moron). He has always refused to allow anybody to prevent him from speaking his mind. Its about time we have a politician like that.
In the America We Deserve (2000), he criticized both parties, and even though some like to pretend that its a leftists tome, he spent more of the book criticizing liberals than anyone else specifically (especially on issues of crime and regulations, though certainly not only on those points). He devoted a whole chapter to the media in Time to Get Tough (2011). (He singled out Lawrence ODonnell, Bob Beckel, Charles Krauthammer, and Chuck Todd for special criticism, e.g. The thing I find most offensive about Chuck Todd is the fact that he pretends to be an objective journalist, when in reality the guy is a partisan hack.)
Trump has seemed to be fixated on winning his whole life. It is something he talks about in The Art of the Deal (1987). In the second chapter on the elements of the deal, he essentially lays out various ways to help ensure winning as much as possible. The main point of The Art of the Comeback (1997) is essentially how to win (in the frontispiece for that book, he quoted Churchill: Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no survival).
All of the above on a shoestring budget compared to most of the 16 competitors hes defeated (after they spent 100’s of millions of donor bucks).
No PACs. No big donors. No party support.
Whats democrat about any of the above? Whats not conservative? Whats not to like?
He spent several pages of The America We Deserve (2000) criticizing “soft money” and corruption in politics. He also said then that if he ran for president, he would not accept money from big donors (he likewise made a point of insisting then that if he did run, he would be a far less boring candidate than usual).
And Ill add a few more:
Redo the horrid Iran deal. Take a serious look at NATO. Require our allies to pay more for their defense.
Rebuild the Reagan Coalition and attract blue collar workers by making America first again on manufacturing, trade, secure borders, economy and jobs, jobs, jobs!
Make America Great Again!
In his 1987 newspaper ad, he wrote: Make Japan, Saudi Arabia, and others pay for the protection we extend our allies Tax these wealthy nations, not America. End our huge deficits, reduce our taxes, and let Americas economy grow unencumbered by the cost of defending those who can easily afford to pay us for the defense of their freedoma statement entirely consistent with his current stance on NATO and foreign affairs in general.
In his interview with Larry King at the Republican National Convention in 1988 (where he was guest of George H.W. Bush), Trump noted that people he had the most affinity with were the workers like the taxi drivers, not the wealthy. In the History Channel documentary on Trump from a few months ago, Al DAmato remembered Trumps positive attitude towards and interaction with the regular folks who worked for him. In the 1980 interview Trump did with Rona Barrett (also shown in the documentary), he said that he thought he was perhaps put on earth to provide jobs for people. He also said that he would be happy to devote his life to this country by running for president, but that he thought it would be a hard life because a good personality is often valued over someone who is right but has unpopular views.”
And this too from JimRob:
“I was told yesterday that Trump is a liberal Democrat.
My reply:
Build the wall.
Enforce the law.
Deport them all.
End sanctuary cities.
End anchor babies.
Slap a moratorium on muslim immigration.
Cut the taxes.
Cut the spending.
Cut the regulations.
Cut the government.
Cut the debt.
Cut the EPA.
Repeal ObamaCare.
Get the feds out and allow health insurance to be sold over state lines.
Send education back to states.
Get a handle on trade.
Make trade deals in our own best interests.
Bring back capital.
Bring back manufacturing.
Bring back jobs.
Strengthen the economy.
Defend the second amendment.
Defend religious freedom.
Appoint constitutional conservative judges.
Rebuild our military.
Bomb the shit out of ISIS (and take their oil).
End political correctness.
Take the GOP head-on.
Take the media head-on.
Take the liberals head-on.
And win, baby, win.
All of the above on a shoestring budget compared to most of the 16 competitors hes defeated (after they spent 100’s of millions of donor bucks).
No PACs.
No big donors.
No party support.
Whats democrat about any of the above?
Whats not conservative?
Whats not to like?
And Ill add a few more:
Redo the horrid Iran deal.
Take a serious look at NATO.
Require our allies to pay more for their defense.
Rebuild the Reagan Coalition and attract blue collar workers by making America first again on manufacturing, trade, secure borders, economy and jobs, jobs, jobs!
Make America Great Again!”
>>As a puppet of the Bush Crime Family, Cruzs mission now is to help elect Hillary.
When trying to analyze why Cruz/Kasich would be staying in the race at this point, the starting point needs to be correct.
If one assumes from the start that Cruz is an “outsider”, then of course none of his recent actions make sense. Thus, one must adjust the premise.
When he is correctly identified as a firmly entrenched insider who is adept at lies and deceit, his subsequent actions make perfect sense.
Kasich is just a Soros-backed liberal. I believe he has been told he is one of multiple “backup” plans, and accordingly, takes his orders from the power people behind the scenes.
“So then why is Trump running as a Republican? If the party is so evil, shouldn’t he be starting his own?
After Trump loses in July or in November and goes back to reality TV, we can begin trying to build a conservative party. Not until then, unfortunately. “
What a load of garbage.
Why do you believe those numbers? Have you learned nothing from the same “polls” game played every presidential election prior?
There are many polls showing the opposite. This is highly manipulated.
Bottom line is Cruz Cannot get more than 25% of the republican vote. How many independent and Dems can he get? Not many. Trump soars with those demographics. He’s had his shot and the voters are saying no.
:) Sometimes I get it right.
Well. Ive made a sincere acknowledgement of Cruz supporters and a reasonable outreach for unity.
Whether anyone accepts the outstretched hand, I cant control that.
Obviously, you dont.
IMHO, Cruz supporters are having a collective “How are we losing to THAT guy?” moment.
Give them time to process.
??We have two enemies to defeat: The GOPe, and Hillary. Im not sure which is worse.
They are two arms of the Octopus. They both take their orders from the Head.
The trainwreck is coming, no way to stop it now. I think Cruz would be less destructive in that we might at least save the House or the Senate. I think a Trump nomination loses both of them... Trump nomination could give Dems Congress: Analyst, Trump puts GOP House majority in jeopardy...
Links???
LOL. You’re so funny!
Donald Trump called Romney's immigration policy "mean-spirited". Trump also says he will expedite the return of illegals back into the country - something Romney opposed.
On health care, Romney said that health care was not the federal government's job. Trump says that under a Trump Presidency, everybody will be taken care of.
So yes, Trump is to the left of Romney. You might not like it, but there is not a single position out there where Trump is to the right of where Romney was four years ago.
“Nice work. Now may I make a few suggestions? :)”
LOL! I know what you mean; my list is probably similar to yours, but it looks like they’re gonna self-weed-out pretty soon on their own as they continue to attack the presumptive nominee here and proclaim their implied support for Hillary.
Looks like the great purge is finally underway.
Where?
I disagree with your statement, “Conservatives who support Ted Cruz were lost by Trump the day he started referring to him as Lying Ted.”
I supported Ted Cruz. Indeed, I attended a locally-sponsored Cruz event and donated funds toward his campaign. I voted for him in our state’s primary.
Although I find political campaigning repugnant, it is what it is... They all throw mud and tout their own horns, so to speak.
What is pertinent, IMHO, is that ALL conservatives come together to support the candidate who receives the 1,237 delegate votes as represented by the votes of the people.
If/when Mr. Trump attains the 1,237 delegates, I will vote for Trump in the general election.
Take a break for a day or two, R2 and enjoy your safe zone with your new tagline.
Hey, Pigface. Someone privately messaged me photos of you on some FR coon hunt. Personally, if I looked like you, I’d take that number.
“The real question is will Trump put as much effort into destroying the communist criminal as he did into destroying the conservative constitutionalist? I have not forgotten R0mneys vicious attacks on other Republicans, followed by his absolute cowardice when facing 0bama.”
Personally, I don’t think there’s much of a question that won’t happen with Trump. Trump’s a horse of a different color from Romney and most past GOP candidates for that matter. I think we’re gonna finally see the no-hold-bars, go-for-the-jugular campaign we were all screaming for that douchebag Romeny to institute but never did.
Oh come on you cherry picked through them all already. Its meaningless other than to try to muddy the waters. The tribe has spoken for Trump so everyone has rolled the dice and Trump is the guy. Get on board now and avoid the coming butthurt when Trump kills it in CA.
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