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To: Rockitz

Hmmmm. With Ted’s ground game, he could easily get it on the 2nd ballot.


Get what? If the nom is stolen from Trump he pushes the GOP destruct button on his phone. Ted Cruz will never be POTUS.


2 posted on 04/07/2016 6:13:00 AM PDT by lodi90 (Clear choice for Conservatives now: TRUMP or lose)
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To: lodi90

” If the nom is stolen from Trump”

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Lincoln won the GOP nomination in 1860 at a contested convention. Nothing is being stolen from Trump. If he doesn’t seal the deal on the first ballot, losing the nomination on subsequent ballots isn’t theft.

You may now continue with your illogical emotional whining and threats about what Trump will do if he loses.


29 posted on 04/07/2016 6:28:04 AM PDT by peyton randolph (When the Uniparty selects candidates for both wings, there is no choice.)
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To: lodi90

Get what? If the nom is stolen from Trump he pushes the GOP destruct button on his phone. Ted Cruz will never be POTUS.

Please try to remember Trump has to get to 1237 delegates before there is any possibility of anything being stolen from him.


30 posted on 04/07/2016 6:28:40 AM PDT by heshtesh ((New Yorker for Cruz))
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To: lodi90

I agree. Cruz will not become President or even win the nomination. It will be either Trump or GOPe.

Cruz’ win in WI can be likened to the German winter offensive of 1944 - their last hurrah. Latest NY polling shows Cruz in third behind Kasich.

Now I had really hoped it would be a Trump/Cruz ticket. With Cruz’ behavior, that’s not going to happen now. Cruz needed to realize that in this election cycle, Cruz’ spot would be to be VP and set himself up in 2020 or 2024, as he’s still a young guy. But Cruz’ me me me/now now now mindset hurt him.

This is purely my opinion, but it would not surprise me that the GOP ticket will be Trump/Kasich. If that happens, and Kasich throws his delegates to Trump, Trump only needs to reach a bit under 1,100 delegates, which fits the analysis of the article. This approach negates the Cruz/GOPe strategy of a brokered convention.

I think the GOPe will take this alternative as it puts a GOPe person on the ticket. They get Trump and his self-funding campaign and enthusiastic base, which will help down ticket GOP races. Also, the GOPe will be happy that Cruz is marginalized. The GOPe wasn’t too happy about Trump knocking off Bush, but they are going to be happy with a Trump/Kasich ticket finally getting rid of the Clintons.

Now there is apparently another National Enquirer piece on Cruz. The Cruz supporters can easily call this innuendo and rumor mongering. Can’t argue with that at all. But it would not surprise me that the NE has more on Cruz and they’re playing him like a fish. If in a week or two, that alleged escort has a press conference along with Gloria Allred, those delegates that Cruz thinks he’ll get on the second or third ballot will disappear.

Cruz won WI, which is a great win for him. I don’t see him winning another state of import. Will he win NY, NJ, MA, CT, PA or CA? I doubt it.

I think Trump gets over 1,100 delegates locked in and then he cuts the VP deal with Kasich.


31 posted on 04/07/2016 6:29:29 AM PDT by HombreSecreto (The life of a repo man is always intense)
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To: lodi90

It’s not “stealing”, if, heading into the convention, no one has a mathematical majority.

If Trump has 1237 (or more) before the convention, then it would be stealing if he isn’t the nominee after the convention.

For 150+ years the rule has been that the candidate who has the majority of delegate votes at (and therefore after) the convention is the nominee. It’s just been that in the last 30-40 years there’s been a candidate that has had a majority of delegates bound to vote for him before the convention. So the convention became (largely) a formality at that point. But this has not historically been the case.

Ask your grandparents (if they’re still alive) or anyone who knew of the conventions, and how contentious they were before 30 or 40 years ago. Or pick up a history book. The conventions have been quite contentious over their history. And that’s largely because many times there have been candidates going into it where none had a majority. Some had a “plurality” (which is simply more delegates than all the others) but not a majority (which is 50% + 1). This cycle, 1237 represents 50% of the total delegates plus one.

With all that said, I’ll throw you a bone here: I’m a bit surprised Brietbart of all places is predicting it’s “all but impossible” for Trump to reach 1237. They’ve been such a cheerleader for Trump in the last few months; that’s the only reason I give this much consideration at all. I personally believe that Trump most likely will reach 1237 before the convention. I think Breitbart is jumping the gun here a little.


34 posted on 04/07/2016 6:30:49 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: lodi90
The nomination would not be "stolen" from Trump. One has to have something before it can be stolen. He hasn't won it. If he doesn't reach 1237, it will be an open convention and delegates will vote as they choose. They just better not choose anyone other than Cruz or Trump.

Heard that Trump is heading to DC to meet with Paul Ryan- I guess he is selling out to the GOPe.

Face it, Trump was not prepared wit a ground game and a system to manage delegates. He just hired an establishment operative to do this. Behind the curve.

36 posted on 04/07/2016 6:31:12 AM PDT by austingirl (Cruz 2016)
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To: lodi90

“Get what? If the nom is stolen from Trump he pushes the GOP destruct button on his phone. Ted Cruz will never be POTUS.”

RNC already said Trump won’t get the nomination regardless of whether he hits 1237. Why continue?


45 posted on 04/07/2016 6:39:22 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (United we stand, divided we fall. I think the establishment has divided us enough.)
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To: lodi90

https://www.yahoo.com/news/the-republican-party-can-t-1402047670140982.html


90 posted on 04/07/2016 6:56:37 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: lodi90
Get what? If the nom is stolen from Trump

Stolen? You mean stolen like Denver stole the Super Bowl from poor Carolina when cam Newton got squashed by the Denver defense? Stolen like that?

Rules / performance.

Get used to it.

99 posted on 04/07/2016 6:59:35 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory. And He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: lodi90

Destroying the party has been his goal along. That is what he is being paid to do by his friends the Clintons. Why do you think him and Bill had that two hour phone call just before he announced? He’s been running as the perfect example of what Hollywood/NPR/NYT Liberals think all conservatives are. Bigoted, misogynistic, xenophobic, loud, boorish and vulgar. If they could just find a trailer park living, tube top wearing relative somewhere it would be the perfect parody.


152 posted on 04/07/2016 7:28:41 AM PDT by redangus
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To: lodi90

How would the nomination get “stolen” from Trump if he does not get the necessary delegates?


170 posted on 04/07/2016 7:42:57 AM PDT by fatez (Ya, well, you know, that's just your opinion man...)
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To: lodi90
Get what? If the nom is stolen from Trump he pushes the GOP destruct button on his phone. Ted Cruz will never be POTUS.

Hey, if Donnie Orange can't get 1,237, nothing is being "stolen" from him. Of course, destroying the GOP to make way for President Hillary was his plan all along.
174 posted on 04/07/2016 7:44:01 AM PDT by Antoninus (Dump The Rump)
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To: lodi90
>> the GOP destruct button on his phone

Did his phone come in a crate from ACME?

Might want to RTFM...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_in_the_Minds_of_Men

 

Seems pretty complicated for Generation XBox, who've thus far managed to produce little more than ratings for American Idolatry and Dancing with the Perverts -- in between commercials for Beer, Erectile Dysfunction, Anti-depressants, Sleeping Pills, and Depends.

Meanwhile, Putin and his Co-Oligarchs smile and wait...




247 posted on 04/07/2016 9:44:20 AM PDT by HLPhat (It takes a Republic TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS - not a populist Tyranny of the Majority)
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To: lodi90
If the nom is stolen from Trump he pushes the GOP destruct button on his phone. Ted Cruz will never be POTUS.

Sounds right. If Trump can't win it fair and square, playing by the rules, he'll try to win it by threat.

249 posted on 04/07/2016 9:48:22 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: lodi90

“Stolen” seems to be tossed around pretty carelessly.

A plurality is not a majority.


266 posted on 04/07/2016 10:17:09 AM PDT by NelsonEddyFan
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