Posted on 03/30/2016 3:06:24 PM PDT by McGruff
It looks as though Hillary Clinton is giving up on Wisconsin, conceding it to rival Vermont Sen. Bernard Sanders, as she hunkers down in New York to prepare for a battle there.
Mrs. Clinton has moved her campaign to New York in the pivotal days before the Wisconsin primary, which will be held April 5. Mrs. Clinton has no plans, as of now, to be in the Badger State before the contest.
Although the public polling looks tight in Wisconsin, Mrs. Clinton’s internal polls must be telling another story — why else would she be trekking out of the state? Former President Bill Clinton, who has been a surrogate for Mrs. Clinton on the campaign trail, also has no planned events there.
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In Wisconsin, Hillary is at 45% to Bernies 49%.
Maybe she’s trying to get a head start on Bernie in New York? Both Wisconsin and New York award delegates proportionately. However, Wisconsin only has 96 delegates to New York’s 291, and New York has a %15 threshold, with Bernie currently at 23%.
Maybe Hillary is trying to get a head start on Bernie in New York, in order to push him below the 15% threshold, and capture all of New York’s delegates. If she can do that, she gets the 66 delegates that Bernie would have gotten at 23%.
So she skips campaigning in Wisconsin, and her and Bernie more or less split the state’s delegates. She’s not going to lose Wisconsin so badly that she loses the 66 delegates that she stands to gain in New York.
If I were in her pants-suit, I’d do the same.
The superdelegates are a sheeplike crowd, forming their opinions in accordance with the most recent conversation they had with ANYBODY.
In a phrase, easily swayed, and totally unreliable.
Herself could win them back, but only so long as she remains silent and does not remind them of the history of atrocities Herself has been a party to in the 35 years she has been in “public service”.
Herself is an old, tired and perhaps seriously ill rerun of the 1970’s, certainly less vigorous than Bernie.
Good thinking.
I think you’re right.
Everybody just assumes that the super delegates are overwhelmingly in her camp so they add those into her column, artificially inflating her lead.
Well you only have to go back to 2008 to see where super delegates moved en mass to another candidate late in the process.
In 2008, it was once again Shrillary Clinton who was the presumptive nominee. Even when Obama started winning primary after primary, Shrillary felt secure that her super delegates would never desert her and she harbored the false notion that even if Obama beat her on "earned" delegates, she would have the super delegates in her pocket that would ultimately secure her the nomination.
It was not until the end of May, yes MAY, that super delegates started switching over to Obama. That's because through April and May, Shrillary was still winning primaries in places like PA, WV and KY and so stayed within striking distance of Obama due to her super delegates.
It took until June 7th (I just looked it up) before Shrillary finally conceded the nomination to Obama. By that time, most of her super delegates had bailed, making her nomination an impossibility.
Not saying that Bernie will duplicate what Obama did, but should be pick up Wisconsin, he will be close to even with Shrillary in earned delegates and on the verge of passing her.
I do not think New York is a given for Shrillary. Bernie's momentum is building in New York day by day.
Won't happen. I live and work in the New York area and travel to New England a lot as well. Here in the Northeast, easily 75% percent of Democrats under 30 years old are for Bernie and no way will they flip over to Shrillary. Not saying that Bernie will take New York but he'll definitely be well over 15%.
Shrillary has huge problems with the under 30 demographic. She's going to need the aging feminist/lesbian crowd to carry her. It may not even be enough to get her the nomination, much less the general.
Revision!
Wisconsin has 86 pledged delegates, and 10 unpledged “super” delegates.
New York has 247 pledged delegates, and 44 unpledged “super” delegates.
There’s no way Hillary will end up under the 15% threshold in Wisconsin, so she’ll get some share of it’s 86 pledged delegates.
But if she can push Bernie below the 15% threshold in New York, she’ll gain the 23% of New York’s 247 pledged delegates, or 57, that he would have gotten.
And, she’ll probably end up with Wisconsin’s 10, and New York’s 44 superdelegates anyway.
You would know the NE far better than I would.
She needs to bring back out of moth balls and put him in the podium and shake...and smile at all of the women voters.
Oh, Bern-o won’t win but his supporters will vote for Hillary anyways. They are all sheep.
Bernie may win the same way Willie won in’92. Nobody else wanted to run against an “unbeatable” candidate. I’d bet a lot of senior RATS are kicking themselves for not getting in.
Those super delegates are going to schlong Bernie. I just hope his supporters stay home for the election. Or vote Trump.
Our elections are NO LONGER elections by the people, they ARE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL FARCE!!!!!! The DEM voters are facing the same thing we are with Trump!!!! Cruz WILL also get screwed hope he has enjoyed jumping into bed with them as much as he did jumping into bed with those women because GOP-e will make sure those affairs are his demise!!!!
Buster Douglas KO's Mike Tyson!
In Wisconsin now visiting my family...! Madison is Bernie country.....no doubt.
Had hoped to go to a Trump rally, but he is elsewhere in the state. Which is of course smart....would be money down the drain here.
My sister is a very liberal Dem..lives in Madtown....she does not trust Hillary. Nor do any of the taxi drivers, hotel workers, other random people with whom I’ve struck up a chat.
Lots of reds and real reds in Wisconsin, esp. Madison, so this shows the scope of the internal threat to our country by them.
Sanders supporters are hardcore commies, Marxists, Democratic Socialists, progressives and liberal leftists, just like those supporting covert commie Hillary.
There is a “Red Tide Rising” in Wisconsin and Minnesota so conservatives need to get really organized there ASAP.
The reason they picked the bern to run against the hildabeast was to make her look “young & moderate”.
Looks like this has backfired on her
I want Bernie to win and for Hillary to then blatantly steal the nomination with her super delegate cronies.
I don't want Bernie's supporters to just get mad and stay home on election night. I want them out there in force voting against Hillary.
Minnesota is so far left that a humor columnist once said, that if the US was conquered by the Soviets, then Minnesota would flip to Republican.
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