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Why did Ted Cruz's PAC give half a million to Carly Fiorina's?
CBS NEWS ^ | 01 OCTOBER 2015 | CHRISTINA RUFFINI

Posted on 03/27/2016 9:47:35 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

The Federal Election Commission (FEC) has asked a Ted Cruz super PAC to explain why it gave $500,000 to another super PAC supporting one of his Republican rivals.

According to financial disclosures from June, Keep the Promise I - one of four separate committees backing Cruz - gave half a million dollars to CARLY for America, the political action committee supporting Carly Fiorina.

Super PACs are legally allowed to give money to other super PACs - they are only prohibited from donating directly to any political campaign. But it's unusual for one of these groups to give money to an opponent, especially when the candidate it supports is still in the race.

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To: FreeReign
So then if it's legal, why is the FEC asking instead of minding its own business?

Because payments are only legal for legal purposes. The FEC is wondering whether this payment is evidence of some underlying crime such as bribery or extortion.

That happens to be part of their job.

141 posted on 03/27/2016 11:31:35 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: douginthearmy
I didn't read the article or any of the posts, but if there were any questions. Not Guilty.

Definitely not guilty, but also not worth $500K

142 posted on 03/27/2016 11:34:12 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: mac_truck
I'll predict right now that Ted Cruz does not run for re-election to the US Senate.

If the NE story is true ... his seat will be vacant before my taxes are due.

143 posted on 03/27/2016 11:35:24 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: austinaero

Typical Trump response: “SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP”


144 posted on 03/27/2016 11:37:41 AM PDT by buckeye49
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To: tennmountainman

Let’s walk this through.

I am a candidate and I find out while I have low poll ratings that a Super PAC that said they supported me started dumping large sums of its money to an actual competitor. It is illegal for me to talk with anyone there, but I can go on national television and complain that it appears people who claim to support me are shifting their money to my competitor. Doesn’t that make me look like even my supporters are doubting my candidacy in favor of another person with similarly low poll numbers?

Some things are best left unsaid. Cruz, to his credit, negotiated around that huge loss of support and became the only viable competitor to Trump.

It appears by not telling the world how weak he was to his supposed supporters helped him in the long run.


145 posted on 03/27/2016 11:39:10 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: newfreep

Then he needs to be in jail over that, if true.

Bless your little heart, you all knowing god, you.


146 posted on 03/27/2016 11:40:06 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind
Cruz bears no responsibility for the transaction.

Cruz bears responsibility for his name.

If a PAC holds itself out as supporting Cruz, and collects money from Cruz supporters by giving the impression that the money will go to supporting Cruz, and instead gives money to a Cruz rival, then Cruz has a duty to stop the fraud by announcing that the PAC in question is NOT on his side.

147 posted on 03/27/2016 11:42:03 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: FreeReign

“So then if it’s legal, why is the FEC asking instead of minding its own business?”

Because when government bureaucrats are not surfing porn on the taxpayers’ dime, hiring prostitutes, or burning through federal revenues like plague-infested bed sheets, they consider it their religious duty to use the full force of the government to punish anyone who disagrees with abortion, homosexuality, the sexual exploitation of little children, Islam, socialism, and the spread of these things evangelistically around the world.


148 posted on 03/27/2016 11:43:28 AM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: PapaBear3625
OK, so here's the question: WHY didn't Cruz just say so?

Because you can't announce your Veep nominee until you are the nominee. Duh!

149 posted on 03/27/2016 11:46:26 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: ConservativeMind
Time will tell just how squeaky clean ol Ted turns out to be. FEC apparently is not getting ‘by law’ answers to their questions... I guess that is their fault as well....

Conservatives take individual personal responsibility... they never play the liberal blame game.

150 posted on 03/27/2016 11:48:53 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: ConservativeMind
Look at the Keep the Promise PAC site.

They have Ted Cruz's picture on the site. They proclaim they are supporting Cruz. They solicit money on the basis of supporting Cruz.

If they are collecting donations for purpose A, and spend that money on a competitor, then they are engaging in fraud. Cruz would have a duty to not be a party to that fraud, by telling the world that this PAC should no longer be considered to be on his side.

151 posted on 03/27/2016 11:50:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Cruz has no authority for anything with that PAC. Cruz wants people to give to his campaign, not to a PAC. What the PAC does is on those people and the donors to that PAC.

Cruz can publicly point out that it looks like his supporters were bailing on him at a critical time to a worse candidate, but does that profit him? None of the money being shifted was from any of his own donors.


152 posted on 03/27/2016 11:50:47 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Just mythoughts

Ted should be telling the FEC information around the loans.


153 posted on 03/27/2016 11:51:43 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Agamemnon

“And you apparently weren’t smart enough to pick up on the fact that he’s counting on the support of rubes like yourself whose “conservatism” can be bought and are just too dull to realize that he’s playing you for a fool.”

There you Cruz supporters go again, just call us stupid! Stick to the facts and avoid the name calling.


154 posted on 03/27/2016 11:53:39 AM PDT by Swirl
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To: Dstorm

155 posted on 03/27/2016 11:55:06 AM PDT by Defiant (After 8 years of Chump Change, it's time for Trump Change!!)
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To: PapaBear3625
Carly got on the radar screen after the first debate, prior to that she got very little coverage but she was making the argument that as a woman she was the best choice to take on Hillary.

No one finances an opposing campaign without one dam good reason. Their explanation is weak.

While I do not like linking to the madcow she does take closer look at the donation and offers and explanation Warning Mad Cow!

156 posted on 03/27/2016 11:55:53 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Super-PAC Tagged for Ted Cruz Flirts With Carly Fiorina http://bloom.bg/1IuJY3O


157 posted on 03/27/2016 11:56:35 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: ConservativeMind
Ted should be telling the FEC information around the loans.

Ted the Harvard Law Schooled smartest lawyer across the fruited plain/plane knows exactly what he is doing... I cannot wait to see who he hires for his counsel... Levin?

158 posted on 03/27/2016 11:56:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Parley Baer

The veep is supposed to balance the ticket, and provide an attack dog for the presidential candidate. Carly would be excellent in that role.

Will you still support Trump if he goes to the “dark side” and picks Kasich as his VP? Be honest.

I will take businesswoman Fiorina over ultimate GOPe insider Kasich anytime. It’s no contest.


159 posted on 03/27/2016 11:58:19 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Swirl

Same here.
He is losing more and more people as this campaign goes on, and to think he had a bright future I thought.


160 posted on 03/27/2016 12:09:49 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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