Posted on 03/22/2016 10:43:27 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
Just got back from my caucus... My head is still spinning.
Check in was slow but reasonably controlled. Super-long lines. I've never seen turnout like this.
Got my credentials, but no presidential ballot. They said those would be delivered to our caucus room.
Got to my caucus room. I counted about 120 people there (no idea how many were actually registered and credentialed).
We elected Precinct Officers, State Delegates, and County Delegates - the typical incompetence and ignorance of the rules you'd expect to see from volunteers, but all went somewhat smooth.
...Then came the Presidential Ballot.
Someone shows up with a stack of probably 250 ballots. The precinct chair splits them up, and starts handing stacks of them out and tells people "take one and pass it down".
No checking credentials, IDs, NOTHING.
I'm sitting at the end of a row and people start handing me stacks of extras. I literally had over 50 ballots in my hand.
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We were told to mark our vote and place our ballot in a tin can. They then asked for a volunteer to hold the can. At this point, most people filed out the door.
I cast ONE vote, then stuck around to see what would happen with the votes.
About 15 minutes later, with only about 10 or so people milling around, someone walks in the room with an envelopes STUFFED full of "absentee" ballots - some envelopes having 2-5+ ballots.
I raised a question and said, "isn't there an absentee process already in place? Didn't people have to register for that last week?" and was told "Oh no, this is completely normal".
As I've mentioned in other threads, I was in Party leadership for 6 years and no, this is absolutely not normal.
I then asked if I could observe the vote count, and I was told my observations where not needed and to leave the area while the ballots were being counted.
I left the room (things were already a complete Charlie Foxtrot at this point) and wandered over to my friends precinct caucus to see if it was just as much a cluster.
His caucus was just getting to the presidential ballot, and as I walked in the door I was handed ANOTHER BALLOT.
Again, no credential check, no ID check, NOTHING.
No, I didn't vote again...
I went back to my precinct and they had the results: 74% Cruz 14% Trump 11% Kasich
Now just imagine this kind of outright incompetence/manipulation happening in 2000 precincts across the state.
As I left the building, I started overhearing results coming back from other precincts... Overwhelmingly numbers for Cruz... Like 70-90% or more. (In one precinct Cruz got around 100, Trump had 2, Kasich 0)
Bottom line... They basically are going to post whatever the hell numbers they want.
There were no apparent controls, no credential checks, no ID checks, and ballots being handed around like napkins.
UTAH RESULTS ARE A COMPLETE SHAM
And it just cost Trump 40 delegates.
Ping!
Just one of many states that have such policy.
Mormons are all right with me. I’ve never known too many of them though.
But too me its about allowing this type of crap. I think the GOP should get rid of caucus for Presidential Elections. Too nutty by far.
“So strange. The only place where voted fraud exits is where Trump loses. I am sure there was none in Nevada.”
Nothing strange about it. Four years ago in our precinct caucus Gingrich won the most votes, but the Romney and Paul voters jumped up and just took all of the precinct delegate positions until I was elected as a delegate to give Gingrich at least one delegate. Gingrich should have been given at least six delegates if the delegate assignments had been apportioned according to the actual votes. These caucus elections and delegates often do not remotely represent what the candidates the voters actually voted for and need to be disciplined to make trustworthy or be replaced by a trustworthy primary election.
Yep. I’m not LDS, but you sure did hear about it all week in this town.
I guess that was Cruz’ ground game - church intimidation. meh
Did Cruz tell them he is a Mormon too? These people are whacked.
Tell me about it. LOL. When I was Mormon, and at BYU, what made me start to question was discovering that the leadership was lying about the health and mental state of the then prophet, Ezra Taft Benson. I found out because I was friends with his son, Reed, who was a professor at BYU.
Also, when you convert (I was a teen convert) you are told one set of doctrines (they call it milk) and then find out the REAL doctrines (meat) once you are in and then again when you go through their temple ceremonies. By that time you are invested.
I used to be Mormon. I have firsthand experience. My post above is just one instance. They are not what they appear to be at all.
Gee, and Cruz seems to win caucus states...
How amazing.
It’s not a real ground game. It’s just plain cheating.
But what do we expect from The Anointed One (PBUH).
How do you know what it recorded your vote as ?
It's true... I DON'T know!
I always check the machine's counter to be sure it moved up to the next number, but other than that... I have no proof that my vote was recorded correctly as I marked it.
LoL Utah have Cruooz at 70% now. Utah may push Cruz into Saddam Hussein or Fidel Castro vote percentages.
I guess these people walk in goosestep to whatever their church leaders tell them to do. How sad. Is this the last caucus state - I hope?
70%?? Wow...
;)
The Cruz team clearly studied Obama’s ‘08 victory and decided to replicate the massive fraud that his team perpetrated in the caucuses.
Yeah, but even here in CT the Dems pull regular shenanigans in cities like Bridgeport.
Big time voter fraud if this is accurate. Whoever wrote this should be able to contact someone like Breitbart.
But I would NOT recommend the Blaze.
They have a name for it ... Lying for the Lord. The Saints consider it both necessary and commendable for both maintaining their Church's image and proselytizing potential converts.
Cruz has over 50,000 votes with only 27% in. He may even catch Trump’s Arizona total votes and Utah is a caucus state! Ballot stuffing to the max! LoL.
Yes they do.
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