Posted on 03/22/2016 10:43:27 PM PDT by M. Thatcher
Just got back from my caucus... My head is still spinning.
Check in was slow but reasonably controlled. Super-long lines. I've never seen turnout like this.
Got my credentials, but no presidential ballot. They said those would be delivered to our caucus room.
Got to my caucus room. I counted about 120 people there (no idea how many were actually registered and credentialed).
We elected Precinct Officers, State Delegates, and County Delegates - the typical incompetence and ignorance of the rules you'd expect to see from volunteers, but all went somewhat smooth.
...Then came the Presidential Ballot.
Someone shows up with a stack of probably 250 ballots. The precinct chair splits them up, and starts handing stacks of them out and tells people "take one and pass it down".
No checking credentials, IDs, NOTHING.
I'm sitting at the end of a row and people start handing me stacks of extras. I literally had over 50 ballots in my hand.
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We were told to mark our vote and place our ballot in a tin can. They then asked for a volunteer to hold the can. At this point, most people filed out the door.
I cast ONE vote, then stuck around to see what would happen with the votes.
About 15 minutes later, with only about 10 or so people milling around, someone walks in the room with an envelopes STUFFED full of "absentee" ballots - some envelopes having 2-5+ ballots.
I raised a question and said, "isn't there an absentee process already in place? Didn't people have to register for that last week?" and was told "Oh no, this is completely normal".
As I've mentioned in other threads, I was in Party leadership for 6 years and no, this is absolutely not normal.
I then asked if I could observe the vote count, and I was told my observations where not needed and to leave the area while the ballots were being counted.
I left the room (things were already a complete Charlie Foxtrot at this point) and wandered over to my friends precinct caucus to see if it was just as much a cluster.
His caucus was just getting to the presidential ballot, and as I walked in the door I was handed ANOTHER BALLOT.
Again, no credential check, no ID check, NOTHING.
No, I didn't vote again...
I went back to my precinct and they had the results: 74% Cruz 14% Trump 11% Kasich
Now just imagine this kind of outright incompetence/manipulation happening in 2000 precincts across the state.
As I left the building, I started overhearing results coming back from other precincts... Overwhelmingly numbers for Cruz... Like 70-90% or more. (In one precinct Cruz got around 100, Trump had 2, Kasich 0)
Bottom line... They basically are going to post whatever the hell numbers they want.
There were no apparent controls, no credential checks, no ID checks, and ballots being handed around like napkins.
UTAH RESULTS ARE A COMPLETE SHAM
And it just cost Trump 40 delegates.
If it offends you, why are you looking? You are one sick puppy. You are probably one of these holier-than-thou types who watches porn on the internet in secrecy, or just a dirty old man.
Screw you, a-hole,
Get cancer.
Count on trumpsters to post “eyewitness” accounts...without knowing if those accounts are true or not.
This same eyewitness account with slight modification pops up everytime Trump loses a conservative caucus state.
Trump should be embarrassed to be the “frontrunner” and coming in 3rd place in one of the most conservative states.
I took a back road up from Vegas to Mead to St George....four years ago
And looped around northern AZ from Vegas to Grand Canyon and back up to I-15
MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OF THOSE TOWNS
Oh yes....you DID. ;)
Ah Laza. Heard you called me a bunch of nasty names.
More Trumps trick. Let it fly!
Depression is easily beatable with a prescription. But there is no known cure for tiny, tiny hands. Cc @moelane
— Liz Mair (@LizMair) March 23, 2016
I don’t think you should generalize about Trump supporters. I am one and I just posted a blow by blow account of the activities at my caucus.
And I specifically said that I thought it was well run.
Kid Utah is not that Conservative...
The Mormons in their literature give permission to their members to get an abortion...
so don’t tell me they are “conservative”
They might vote Republican but that doesn’t make them Conservative...
shoot my county in TN sometimes votes 80% Republican and there are few Mormons there..
were mostly Church of God and Baptist...
BTW our state and our county went with Trump...
My precinct went with Trump and Bernie...
Cruz didn’t get any counties at all in TN nor precincts in my very Christian county..and Rubio got one county in the middle of the state and one precinct in my county...
Trump beat his polling - 51% in he is up to 13%.
I can’t deal with one woman hardly
Can’t imagine dealing with a half dozen “sisters”
I’d go nuts
It’s sounds great in theory...lol
It’s kind of depressing to see it in person. There are stores in the area I avoid for this reason.
The Green Papers has
Cruz 69.04%
Kasich 16.78%
Trump 14.18%
It looks odd
I resist the Mormon bashing I see here....there are good Mormons here
We almost lost a very good one a few years back but he beat it
My kids have LDS friends and they have great manners
It’s a creed for many and just because it’s not for me I’m sure not going to act like I’m superior to those born into it
But yes the polygamy thing has a dark history no question
Polygamy really deprives average men of a mate and can create discord ripe for martyrdom
CSPAN with 61.21% reporting has
Cruz 69%
Kasich 16.9%
Trump 14.1%
Look, when the god they worship was once just a man like Mitt, what could you expect?
I have a near photographic memory....it’s a curse
Ask m. Thatcher if you doubt me
Let’s clarify one thing - Utah is mostly Mormon. Trump won the entire south which is the Bible belt. Cruz should be embarrassed that he couldn’t even win the Evangelical vote - but, by golly, he sure went gangbusters with the Mormon vote. I will refrain from my opinion on the Mormon religion, except to say, they aren’t Christian Evangelicals. You don’t know if this eye witness account is true or not - you just want to bash Trump. When things settle down, you will fend that there was massive voter fraud in many of these caucus states. However, since you support a liar and a cheat, I don’t expect you to understand. Now, just go back under your slimy rock.
I’ll be reading this exact same post after Hillary crushes Trump in November.
Of course, not one person in the Republican Party has EVER done anything to prevent voter fraud since Kennedy squeaked by Nixon in 1960.
Why?
Because it’s a perfect unchallengeable excuse when our favorite Republican candidates lose.
Thanks for your account
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