‘The American People Have Figured Out They’ve Been Screwed’ By Free Trade

breitbart ^ | 11 Mar 2016 | John Hayward

[dennisw]

The American people have concluded they’re getting “screwed” by trade deals, immigration policy, and other areas where their interests are not considered a priority by their own political and business leaders. He contended this backlash against the elites was the reason so many highly-touted candidates have flamed out of the GOP primary, which is on the verge of boiling down to a two-man race between the two leading anti-Establishment candidates, Donald Trump and Senator Sen. Ted Cruz

Caddell said the critique of free trade from Trump – and to a lesser extent, his final remaining competitors – was the kind of break from party orthodoxy that could only happen during an election dominated by “outsider forces” and “insurgents.”

“Trump is the more populist outsider, the insurgent,” said Caddell. “Ted Cruz has been the more ideological insurgent.”

Trump’s greater success thus far to the primary electorate leaning toward populism, but saluted Cruz for “drawing his differences quite well” with Trump during Thursday’s encounter – a vitally important task for Cruz, as the once-crowded GOP primary moves into a two-candidate head-to-head finale.

However, he chalked up the win for Trump based on the trade issue, which Caddell described as a “stunner” when he recently polled voters on the issues important to them. He said that poll showed “Republicans, and independents following Republicans, even more than Democrats are anti-free-trade… or, I should say, they have had it with trade deals, just as they’ve had it with the Washington establishment.”

“What’s happening is, the economic anxiety – the tremendous alienation that exists, and the concerns about national security, and particularly China – are all fueling this nexus issue, which is all being expressed in concrete terms over these trade deals,” he explained, noting the issue scored especially strong in Michigan and Mississippi exit polls.

[Opinionated Blowhard]

Its not free trade that screwed Americans, its open borders. They aren’t the same. Protectionism doesn’t work. It never has. Open borders, combined with ever-increasing government, are what is undermining wages and turning the middle class into serfs.

[Vaquero]

Free trade is a two way street. If one party is not practicing free trade the other party gets screwed.

[Resolute Conservative]

Bingo. I would prefer protectionism over letting other countries screw us at will.

[knarf]

What happened and is still happening is;

The Trump Effect

People saw, for the first time in their lives, a man stand and say things that they'd been thinking or had gotten into barroom fights over ... and the man had the money to not give a shit what ANY one thought about it

THIS was a man joe sixpack (no offense to OUR Joe Sixpack) could relate to and applaud

There is nothing magic about this or even worth explaining

WE Trumpsters instinctively know what happened and what is happening

The losers are the ones ALWAYS raising the question because they just can't believe someone ELSE would pee in their panties and make them WEAR them !

[GOP Poet]

Actually really enjoyed reading this. (Haven't made it all the way through yet though. lol.) I'll probably listen to the audio. But from the gist of it, I think he summarizes why Trump and even Cruz are resonating so strongly with not only Repubs but independents.

We've been getting massively screwed for a very long time (especially conservatives.) and by our own party/candidates and we've HAD it. And not only want to stop it but CHANGE it.

Interesting it comes from Pat Caddell. I think this summary of his appeals to many, many more Americans than just conservatives and independents. I think there are also a few libs out there that once they read this and think about it (if there are any that actually have not been completely brainwashed and OCCASIONALLY think for themselves), understand that we as Americans have lost a whole lot of jobs to some of these horrendous deals our countries have made along with horrendously spending our tax dollars and all the other thing mentioned in the article such as rampant illegal immigration.

[Iron Munro]

“The American People Have Figured Out They’ve Been Screwed’ By Free Trade”

Finally...

There are a lot of real slow learners around these days.....

Voters had a chance to stop the job loss 24 years ago but they decided to elect a rapist and woman molester as president.

Ross Perot; GIANT SUCKING SOUND QUOTE, 1992:

“We have got to stop sending jobs overseas. It’s pretty simple: If you’re paying $12, $13, $14 an hour for factory workers and you can move your factory South of the border, pay a dollar an hour for labor,...have no health care — that’s the most expensive single element in making a car — have no environmental controls, no pollution controls and no retirement, and you don’t care about anything but making money, there will be a giant sucking sound going south.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgx1C_S6ls

[VitacoreVision]

Stop the Free Trade Agenda

STOP FREE TRADE AGENDA is a major new action project of The John Birch Society with the purpose of preserving our personal freedoms and national independence by stopping congressional approval of any new multilateral free trade agreements such as the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP). A vote to approve the TPP agreement is expected in late 2013; a vote on the TTIP agreement is expected in 2015. The global power elites view multilateral free trade agreements as one of their main vehicles for establishing, step by step, socialistic regional governments controlled by themselves as steppingstones toward a socialistic global government under the United Nations.




How the Free Trade Agenda Is Knocking Down America
-- The New American (PDF) Special Report
http://www.thenewamerican.com/files/TNA2917.pdf


The Special Report includes the following articles:

- The "Free Trade" Agenda Threatens Our Rights
- Global Merger: Piece by Piece
- The EU: Regionalization Trumps Sovereignty
- Trade Promises... and Trade Reality
- North American Union: From NAFTA to the NAU
- Fast-track: Enabler of the "Free Trade" Agenda
- Regional Scheme for the Pacific Rim
- EU/U.S. — Transatlantic Convergence

[AuntB]

Sadly, the few people who profit from trade like Nafta, TPP, Gatt will NEVER admit it’s bad and will do anything they can to keep promoting it and that’s why they promote people like Cruz, and that includes Rush Limbaugh who has never criticized any of these cheap labor agreements or anyone who pushes them.

[GOP Poet]

I summarize it as saying, "Trump has balls and uses them." You also mention how he is articulating a lot of what many of us feel without softening or discounting the strength of the outrage.

He's not PC and how incredibly refreshing that is ESPECIALLY coming out of the mouth of someone who isn't agreeing with the leftist media's previous intimidations and social outcasting. He simply doesn't care and sees that game as a challenge (and for what it is which is a game and an act of TRYING to intimidate and he doesn't cower to it.)

[savagesusie]

Well—no-—Free Trade can never exist between Communist/ Socialist country and a truly “free” country. That is why we used to BAN deals with communist/socialist nations.

When a State has slave labor-—all communist and socialist govts. DON’T have free people and free markets/true private property “rights”. There is no such thing as “Free Trade” now-—which takes Individualism——Indivdiual Natural Rights from God-—not controls by the oligarchy, etc.

[DannyTN]

So-called “free trade” certainly accounts for some of the economic pain and anger at the GOPe. But it doesn’t account for Cruz’s being in the top two. Because Cruz is very much a free trader.

[Dilbert San Diego]

Many people are fed up with being told by wealthy powerful people, that we live in a global economy now.

They are frustrated to hear that they have to lose their good paying jobs, in order to honor the principle of free trade.

They are frustrated to hear that this global economy is good for all of us, when clearly it’s not good for those who lost the good paying blue collar jobs.

It’s hard to face losing decent jobs with good pay and benefits, to go work for minimum wage at Wal Mart or McDonald’s.

[AuntB]

Agreed....but there was one guy before Trump. Duncan Hunter, who the GOPe made SURE people never got to hear.

Interesting comparison on candidates of what they had to say about trade when they made their announcement speeches.

TRADE

Cruz
Imagine instead of economic stagnation, booming economic growth.
(Not specifically ‘trade’, but as close as he got to it!)

Rubio

They are busy looking backward, so they do not see how jobs and prosperity today depend on our ability to compete in a global economy.

Trump

Renegotiate our foreign trade deals.

When was the last time anybody saw us beating, let’s say, China in a trade deal? They kill us. I beat China all the time. All the time.

When did we beat Japan at anything? They send their cars over by the millions, and what do we do? When was the last time you saw a Chevrolet in Tokyo? It doesn’t exist, folks. They beat us all the time.
When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they’re killing us economically.
The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else’s problems.

TRUMP: Last quarter, it was just announced our gross domestic product — a sign of strength, right? But not for us. It was below zero. Whoever heard of this? It’s never below zero.

‘ll bring back our jobs from China, from Mexico, from Japan, from so many places. I’ll bring back our jobs, and I’ll bring back our money.
Right now, think of this: We owe China $1.3 trillion. We owe Japan more than that. So they come in, they take our jobs, they take our money, and then they loan us back the money, and we pay them in interest, and then the dollar goes up so their deal’s even better.
How stupid are our leaders? How stupid are these politicians to allow this to happen? How stupid are they?
. I’m going to tell you a couple of stories about trade, because I’m totally against the trade bill for a number of reasons.
Number one, the people negotiating don’t have a clue. Our president doesn’t have a clue. He’s a bad negotiator.

TRUMP: So we need people — I’m a free trader. But the problem with free trade is you need really talented people to negotiate for you. If you don’t have talented people, if you don’t have great leadership, if you don’t have people that know business, not just a political hack that got the job because he made a contribution to a campaign, which is the way all jobs, just about, are gotten, free trade terrible.
Free trade can be wonderful if you have smart people, but we have people that are stupid. We have people that aren’t smart. And we have people that are controlled by special interests. And it’s just not going to work.
So, here’s a couple of stories happened recently. A friend of mine is a great manufacturer. And, you know, China comes over and they dump all their stuff, and I buy it. I buy it, because, frankly, I have an obligation to buy it, because they devalue their currency so brilliantly, they just did it recently, and nobody thought they could do it again.
But with all our problems with Russia, with all our problems with everything — everything, they got away with it again. And it’s impossible for our people here to compete.
So I want to tell you this story. A friend of mine who’s a great manufacturer, calls me up a few weeks ago. He’s very upset. I said, “What’s your problem?”
He said, “You know, I make great product.”
And I said, “I know. I know that because I buy the product.”
He said, “I can’t get it into China. They won’t accept it. I sent a boat over and they actually sent it back. They talked about environmental, they talked about all sorts of crap that had nothing to do with it.”
I said, “Oh, wait a minute, that’s terrible. Does anyone know this?”
He said, “Yeah, they do it all the time with other people.”
I said, “They send it back?”
“Yeah. So I finally got it over there and they charged me a big tariff. They’re not supposed to be doing that. I told them.”
Now, they do charge you tariff on trucks, when we send trucks and other things over there.
Ask Boeing. They wanted Boeing’s secrets. They wanted their patents and all their secrets before they agreed to buy planes from Boeing.
Hey, I’m not saying they’re stupid. I like China. I sell apartments for — I just sold an apartment for $15 million to somebody from China. Am I supposed to dislike them? I own a big chunk of the Bank of America Building at 1290 Avenue of the Americas, that I got from China in a war. Very valuable.
I love China. The biggest bank in the world is from China. You know where their United States headquarters is located? In this building, in Trump Tower. I love China. People say, “Oh, you don’t like China?”
No, I love them. But their leaders are much smarter than our leaders, and we can’t sustain ourself with that. There’s too much — it’s like — it’s like take the New England Patriots and Tom Brady and have them play your high school football team. That’s the difference between China’s leaders and our leaders.
They are ripping us. We are rebuilding China. We’re rebuilding many countries. China, you go there now, roads, bridges, schools, you never saw anything like it. They have bridges that make the George Washington Bridge look like small potatoes. And they’re all over the place.
We have all the cards, but we don’t know how to use them. We don’t even know that we have the cards, because our leaders don’t understand the game. We could turn off that spigot by charging them tax until they behave properly.
So Mexico takes a company, a car company that was going to build in Tennessee, rips it out. Everybody thought the deal was dead. Reported it in the Wall Street Journal recently. Everybody thought it was a done deal. It’s going in and that’s going to be it, going into Tennessee. Great state, great people.

TRUMP: All of a sudden, at the last moment, this big car manufacturer, foreign, announces they’re not going to Tennessee. They’re gonna spend their $1 billion in Mexico instead. Not good.
Now, Ford announces a few weeks ago that Ford is going to build a $2.5 billion car and truck and parts manufacturing plant in Mexico. $2.5 billion, it’s going to be one of the largest in the world. Ford. Good company.
So I announced that I’m running for president. I would...
(APPLAUSE)
... one of the early things I would do, probably before I even got in — and I wouldn’t even use — you know, I have — I know the smartest negotiators in the world. I know the good ones. I know the bad ones. I know the overrated ones.
Let me give you the bad news. Every car and every truck and every part manufactured in this plant that comes across the border, we’re going to charge you a 35-percent tax, and that tax is going to be paid simultaneously with the transaction, and that’s it.
Now, here’s what is going to happen. If it’s not me in the position, it’s one of these politicians that we’re running against, you know, the 400 people that we’re (inaudible). And here’s what’s going to happen. They’re not so stupid. They know it’s not a good thing, and they may even be upset by it. But then they’re going to get a call from the donors or probably from the lobbyist for Ford and say, “You can’t do that to Ford, because Ford takes care of me and I take care of you, and you can’t do that to Ford.”
And guess what? No problem. They’re going to build in Mexico. They’re going to take away thousands of jobs. It’s very bad for us.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3396178/posts?page=2#2

[Lurkinanloomin]

What’s happening is not immigration, it’s cheap labor importation.
They are importing the workers for the jobs that can’t be exported. Manufacturing can be offshored.
Landscaping, construction, food processing, hospitality, etc. can’t be.
Flooding a labor market, any labor market, depresses wages.
Our betters have been intentionally flooding our country with fraudulently documented foreigners and when we complain, they take the side of the fraudulently documented foreigners.

Americans have been waiting for someone to help them keep their country.

[Will88]

One of the worst problems of so-called is free trade is trading with 3rd world nations that had little or nothing to trade. What did China have to sell to the world in the late 1970s when Deng Xiaoping came to the US seeking investment and technology?

Very little: a few crafts and agricultural products, but not much else. China only became a serious exporter after she traded her cheap labor for factories and jobs from the industrialized world. And the only American beneficiaries of that brand of “trade” have been the owners of US plants who might have improve their profit margin by moving to a cheap labor nation. The rest of US citizens experienced the lost factories and jobs and unsupported claims that the price of consumer goods were much cheaper.

[94Revolution]

This sentence is one of those that causes me headaches:

“... one of the early things I would do, probably before I even got in — and I wouldn’t even use — you know, I have — I know the smartest negotiators in the world. I know the good ones. I know the bad ones. I know the overrated ones.”

I was never great at diagramming sentences. I did always score at the top of my class on reading comprehension. I have absolutely no idea what this sentence is about.

[Iron Munro]

Americans have been waiting for someone to help them keep their country.

A giant first step would be to at least have government officials who aren't working to give the country away.

It is a difficult struggle for patriotic Americans when our own government puts the interests of other countries and other peoples ahead of America and Americans.

They see themselves as too sophisticated to represent people who think about borders and national issues.

After all - they have evolved.

They are citizens of the world, spreading happiness and American dollars wherever they go - At least wherever they go outside of America.

[FreedomPoster]

Bingo. American companies can’t sell in China, for instance. All sales have to be through a Chinese-majority-owned subsidiary, as I understand it.

There are many trade barriers out there that aren’t direct tariffs, and we’ve rolled over, seems to be the reality.

[faithhopecharity]

It’s not free trade bits government- enforced global cartelization. Free trade could still be a good thing but it requires honest governmental officials - Given the crooks in washington the mess we got is almost inevitable