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Republican Insiders Plan for a Convention Fight Against Donald Trump or Ted Cruz
Time Magazine ^ | February 18, 2016 | Zeke J. Miller

Posted on 02/18/2016 1:51:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

For all the jostling and jockeying taking place in South Carolina ahead of this weekend's Republican primary, little of it will be decisive.

If anything, the outcome Saturday night only stands to muddy an already messy contest to lead a deeply fractured Republican Party. Losers may not be forced to leave the race, and the still-uncertain winner will leave the state with nothing guaranteed.

The growing consensus among many senior Republicans is that there are three likely outcomes facing Republicans. Donald Trump could win enough delegates to be the nominee. Ted Cruz could do the same. Or no candidate emerges from the final primaries on June 7 with the required 1,237 delegates to win when the intra-party convention starts in Cleveland.

That means the remaining candidates with a claim to party establishment backing--Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Ohio Gov. John Kasich and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush--see their chances for winning the nomination before the July convention dwindling. National and early-state polls have shown Trump and Cruz polling with a combined share of more than half of party voters. The also-rans do not have a clear path, barring a sudden collapse in support for Trump or Cruz, to cobble together sufficient support to put up a roadblock to the outsiders' aggressions, even if two of the candidates agreed to drop out to unite behind the third....

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Iowa; US: New Hampshire; US: New York; US: Ohio; US: South Carolina; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; cruz; election2016; florida; iowa; jebbush; marcorubio; newhampshire; newyork; southcarolina; tedcruz; texas; timemagazine; trump; zekejmiller
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To: j.argese

Cruz has more conservatism in his pinky finger than Donald Trump has in his entire hairpiece.


21 posted on 02/18/2016 2:23:04 PM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: livius; BillyBoy; campaignPete R-CT

IF Trump is the nominee, I’ll back him. With LESS enthusiasm than I gave Romney though.


22 posted on 02/18/2016 2:24:42 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: catnipman
That was based on the premise that Rubio can't get over 15-20% of the vote. That's not true anymore. And in a 3-man race with the other establishment guys out, Rubio will easily meet that threshold. Trump will definitely keep meeting it and Cruz is likely to as well.

We are heading to a brokered convention. The establishment can't win outright, but they can force us into a brokered convention by getting Kasich and Jeb to drop out and funding Rubio exclusively.

states that require candidates to reach a threshold of either 20 percent or 15 percent to share in the proportional allocation of delegates. Only two candidates are likely to meet that threshold.

23 posted on 02/18/2016 2:26:09 PM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: JediJones
Cruz has more conservatism in his pinky finger than Donald Trump has in his entire hairpiece.

Says who? Sorry, the the transformed angel of light is not even eligible to hold the office of president. That is how conservative Cruz literally is.... Some people are just born to believe deception.

Trump is every bit as much conservative as Rush Limbaugh ..... Care to compare and contrast their lifestyles????

24 posted on 02/18/2016 2:28:25 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I just don’t see that happening unless the GOPe funds Katich, Bush and Rubio - all of them - until the bitter end. Ig they drop out due to lack of funds, or the impossibility of gaining a majority of delegates, leaving Cruz and Trump battling for the winner take all states, Trump is crushed.


25 posted on 02/18/2016 2:29:59 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Just mythoughts

Try to stick to actual issues instead of wild-eyed tabloid stuff.


26 posted on 02/18/2016 2:31:26 PM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Draft Romney? Oh Plz..


27 posted on 02/18/2016 2:32:41 PM PST by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; JediJones; All

Teddy is the insider’s insider. Has the rubes huckleberried.


28 posted on 02/18/2016 2:33:34 PM PST by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: JediJones
Try to stick to actual issues instead of wild-eyed tabloid stuff.

S N I C K E R

29 posted on 02/18/2016 2:35:10 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: John Valentine

Well just keep watching and you will see. LOL!


30 posted on 02/18/2016 2:37:19 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You are in the South so I will trust your judgement and continue to pray!!! After the last election I was just STUNNED we could NOT beat Obama a Muslim, Marxist with an absolutely horrible record of running this nation!!


31 posted on 02/18/2016 2:44:26 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: j.argese

And can you explain to me how Trump is conservative????


32 posted on 02/18/2016 2:44:28 PM PST by diamond6 (Behold this Heart which has so loved men!" Jesus to St. Margaret Mary)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Thanks for posting this absolute miasma of wishful thinking. There will be no “brokered” convention because nobody but Trump will get to the convention with at least a majority of delegates in each of at least eight states. Right now, that’s what the rules require for any candidate to be submitted as a potential nominee to be voted on. No one here or anywhere can name those essential eight states for any candidate other than Trump. Hence, Trump wins the convention without any other candidate’s name even being entered to be voted on.


33 posted on 02/18/2016 2:45:22 PM PST by libstripper
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To: John Valentine

You are going to be very disappointed Cruz will NEVER win the nomination if he can’t win the South!!!


34 posted on 02/18/2016 2:50:12 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

35 posted on 02/18/2016 3:00:45 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man St anding.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Wow. Missed that one. His willingness to disclose inconvenient truths, or worse hand them over to his attorney general, is probably what has so many gop-e pukes heading for their fainting couches.

DT needs to hire a food tester or three. Pronto.


36 posted on 02/18/2016 3:02:00 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Greg Abbott for US Senate 2018)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
If the so-called SuperDelegates try a floor fight to deny the nomination to the candidate(s) who wind up with the most public support, there are just a few possible outcomes:
  1. they want something in return for dropping it
  2. they're serious and think they can pull it off
  3. they will find out what "heads on poles" really means.
If it's #3, there isn't anyone on Earth who will take their side, not even the Demagogic Party scumbags in and out of the media.

37 posted on 02/18/2016 3:06:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Kit cat

This is a serious question and not meant to be snarky or rude but who do we REALLY NEED Trump? What exactly for? Can someone please outline his specific plans on any one topic other than building a wall?


38 posted on 02/18/2016 3:07:05 PM PST by katieetx828
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To: diamond6

I didn’t say he was. If he does any one of the things he claims he will do he will be better than any of the other horse’s asses running. I know they are full of shit.


39 posted on 02/18/2016 3:09:51 PM PST by j.argese (/s tags: If you have a mind unnecessary. If you're a cretin it really doesn't matter, does it?)
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To: katieetx828

The wall, in and of itself, is enough.

Because if we lose on the border, we lose on every single issue in the long term.

And none of the other candidates have shown a willingness to do anything about it. Even Cruz.


40 posted on 02/18/2016 3:11:22 PM PST by Luircin (The difference between lesser evil and greater good is who gets schlonged in the end.)
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