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The voter rebellion is on! Who should lead: Cruz or Trump? Both?
February 3, 2016 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/03/2016 1:57:45 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Q: Why are the voters rebelling?

A: The leftist progressives have been treading on our constitution and our liberty for at least the last 100 years and consequently we've suffered a long train of abuses and usurpations: The income tax (16th amendment), ending state sovereignty/concentrating power at the federal level (the 17th amendment), the Fed, heavy-handed/unconstitutional regulations, socialized retirement, socialized health care, restrictions on religious liberty, legalized abortion, federal mandated homosexual marriage with the heavy hand of the federal government enforcing it over the objections of the states and small business operators, the illegal alien invasion, the subversive Muslim invasion, the last 8 years of lawlessness under a Marxist/Islamofascist usurper, and a totally ineffective Republican opposition party that caves in or actually goes along with much of the above.

The tea party rebellion rose up several years ago to try to fight off the most recent Marxist assaults on our liberty and was quite effective at electing Republican majorities in the House and the Senate and in the majority of the states, but all to no avail.

The professional political elites entrenched within the Republican establishment co-opted our newly elected tea party representatives and or otherwise blunted their efforts and continued allowing the Marxist democrats to have their way over us. Even a rebellion against the Speaker of the House did no good. The new Speaker is as weak as the old Speaker.

And so the situation is ripe for rebellion. And we had a great Christian constitutional conservative tea party leader poised to lead it, Ted Cruz. And we were happy to jump on this young lion's bandwagon and push him through to triumph over the Marxist Democrats.

But the entrenched GOP establishment would have none of it and they (the GOPe and related Super PACS and their allies at FOX News and the cheap labor/open borders lobby) lined up behind the malleable open-borders Jeb Bush whom they could control and amassed a vast 100 million dollar plus warchest with promises of millions more to come. With the help of the "free" press, their anointed one was all but nominated. No way would a first term upstart and senate outcast like Ted Cruz overtake their anointed prince.

But then jumped in an older, long-maned alpha lion who's been around the block a couple times, roaring his way to the top of the hill. Trump's hard-nosed, no-nonsense, non-politically-correct, take no prisoners approach quickly grabbed the attention of the masses of fed-up voters. Trump single handedly slew the establishment's Prince Jeb, the media and the establishment itself and completely rewrote the rules of engagement.

His bold pronouncements that he would build a wall, enforce the law and deport them all was the exact right message at the exact right time and immediately vaulted him to front-runner status. And he added to that that he would end sanctuary cities, end anchor babies and even slap a moratorium on Muslim immigration. Again, exactly what the masses wanted to hear.

Now, many of us feel that these twin invasions (illegal aliens and Muslim infiltrators) were and are existential threats to our national sovereignty and were thrilled to have a mighty warrior like Trump who takes no guff from the media or the establishment to lead the charge.

The media, the establishment and even many so-called conservatives immediately objected with "you can't do that." It's unconstitutional and un-American. It's not who we are as Republicans.

That last one was especially telling. "It's not who we are as Republicans."

Ain't that the truth. And that's our entire problem in a nutshell.

Trump's huge rallies attracted thousands and thousands and his polling numbers soared for months. He was leading in most of the national polls and in most states.

But there was a growing counter-insurgency rumbling beneath the rebellion. Trump's history is strewn with contradictory and potentially fatal landmines. Too many of his past pronouncements and activities were on the NY liberal side and some are too much for Christian constitutional conservatives to bear or forgive. He swears that he's now a pro-life, pro-family Christian, but he has also stated that he's never asked for forgiveness. That's mighty hard for Christians to accept, but who are we to judge what's in a man's heart.

So here we are. The rebellion is roaring. The people are massing. Torches and pitchforks at the ready, but we are divided on who should lead it. And not just divided, we're scratching each others eyes out fighting about it. And as we do, the establishment's second choice (Gang of Eight traitor Rubio) is making inroads.

Personally, I'm all in for the Rebellion no matter who leads it. And I've often stated that Cruz is my favorite because of his constitutional conservative stance, but if Trump wins the nomination I'll enthusiastically support him in the general. Why? Because we cannot possibly allow yet another American-hating communist to follow Obama into the White House to complete the job of totally destroying our free Republic. End of that story. It's a no-brainer and my picture is in the dictionary under that term.

I absolutely love Trump's bold stand against illegal aliens and his call for a moratorium on Muslim immigration and believe it's even stronger than Cruz's past positions. I also love Trump's Reagan-like tax plan. Cruz's flat tax proposal is also interesting. I believe they both want to cut regulations, cut spending, cut government, return education to the states, etc, build a powerful military and fight against terrorism and make America great again.

Cruz is stronger on life and marriage and probably on choosing judges, but Trump says he's a pro-life, pro-family Christian but that's always a gamble anyway. Even Reagan and GWB blew a few judicial nominations.

The important thing here (IMHO) is that we save our nation. I'm not ready to rule out either of these candidates. Cruz is off to a great start and is up by one delegate over Trump and together they're double the GOPe's second choice. But it's a long hard grind ahead.

I say we should let the candidates fight it out and not be so eager to trash either one of our leading candidates. Digging up and publishing dirt and rumors on either is not doing our side any good and is potentially destructive in the long run.

And trashing our fellow FReepers is something that should never be done. This is going to be a long fight and we do not want to lose too many of our friends.

Meanwhile, let the rebellion gain strength. We're all in it together to save our nation. Please save your ammunition and your venom for the true enemy on the left.

Oh, I almost forgot. If you haven't already done so, please get your donation in. We're gonna need it to survive this fight.


TOPICS: Breaking News; FReeper Editorial; Free Republic; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; elections; freepathon; jimrob; neither; rebellion; trump; uniparty; voter; voterrebellion
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To: Jim Robinson

That was good. You should start up a website or something :)


141 posted on 02/03/2016 3:18:51 PM PST by dp0622 ( A)
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To: gg188

I went over to constipated conservatives from the epic 867 post flameout opus.
There are a bunch of them still here despite what they said over there.


142 posted on 02/03/2016 3:19:56 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Theophilus

why does he let himself simmer and then take to twitter.

he might have picked up another delegate or MAYBE two.

it was not that big of a deal.


143 posted on 02/03/2016 3:20:10 PM PST by dp0622 ( A)
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To: windsorknot

When a political race is as close as the one between two candidates like Trump and Cruz, they BOTH need to act like leaders and not little kids in the third grade. I am disappointed in BOTH of them.

Note to both of them: Suck it up sunshine and act like real leaders if you expect to get my vote.


144 posted on 02/03/2016 3:29:53 PM PST by DaveA37
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To: IAMNO1
Why are so many here in favor of voting for Trump first, before even giving Cruz, our staunchest conservative, a chance to succeed or fail on his own? I don't get that.

My opinion is that there are a lot of varied reasons and I can list a few even though I am a Cruz voter in the primary.

1.) The President (as my brother put it) now needs someone with great big balls -- someone to really reverse field and push back against the entrenched leftist media victories. Trump by his original comments when he declared showed he had the brass.

2.) Cruz has the baggage of a total outsider with only Sessions and Lee of his Senatorial colleagues giving him support.

3.) There are plenty of people that support Trump who think of him as just a rich businessman. They don't have detailed experience with he or his type.

4.) When a conservative gets frustrated after years and years of defeat, he has the veneer of reason that can hide a reactionary and that veneer is not very thick in some cases. That type of person hears Trump and believes him and in believing buys the whole kit-and-kabootle.

Now. let's be clear, a reasonably sounding equivalent list can be written about Cruz. Those wanting to reply with such should understand that most of us have already read them and don't make up our mind by Internet harangues

145 posted on 02/03/2016 3:30:36 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: georgiarat

These guys, esp Cruz have stood alone and are HATED. Check the record.


146 posted on 02/03/2016 3:31:27 PM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: Jim Robinson

No one left to vote for, Jim.


147 posted on 02/03/2016 3:35:15 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Ready for (urp) Hillary)
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To: dp0622

He can’t help himself. Aggression has made him successful. Lord knows what it has cost him.


148 posted on 02/03/2016 3:35:50 PM PST by Theophilus (The GOPe are dealers. The Marxist Democrats are duelists.)
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To: Heartlander

“And let’s hope we won’t be fooled again.”

With the way that the DT and Senator Cruz supporters are tearing the candidates and each other apart, I would not be surprised if we are fooled again with.....Rubio.


149 posted on 02/03/2016 3:38:21 PM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Why does every totalitarian, political hack think that he knows how to run my life better than I?)
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To: Jim Robinson

With all due respect (and a lot is due) I will not vote in this Election. I think our potential nominees are an utter disaster and some are too dangerous to let near the nuclear codes (that would be Cruz)


150 posted on 02/03/2016 3:38:29 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: DoughtyOne

Isn’t that kind of the opposite of what Jim requested?


151 posted on 02/03/2016 3:43:33 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: drewh
the GOPe ‘s are gonna serve us a steaming hot plate of bubble boy unfortunately

Not without a fight, they aren't.

Christie took it to Bubble boy today on Cavuto.....and Cavuto was so busy taking up for Rubio and asking Christie why he wasn't attacking Cruz instead......that it was hilarious.

Christie's response? Cruz answers questions and stands by his policies.......Bubble boy dodges and ducks because he doesn't want anyone to know what his policies are.

I expect Cruz to start focusing in on Rubio soon but it remains to be seen if Trump can get his act together enough to realize that right now, Rubio is a bigger threat to him than Cruz is. If Trump does, it could massively stunt Rubio from moving up in the polls.

152 posted on 02/03/2016 3:48:57 PM PST by TXSearcher (Longtime Lurker......now a newbie)
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To: KC Burke
I agree with your responses, though with slight differences: Regarding “great big balls”, Trump has them, but Cruz certainly does too, given his conservative stances against the establishment. Nobody has stood firmer in Congress. Regarding the baggage of Cruz’ being an outsider, I look at that as a plus. I want the Dims and the Rino’s stopped, not agreed with, so for me gridlock is totally acceptable. I'm divided on the merits of Trump being a businessman. Some I've known are honorable, and some are scoundrels. I don't know enough about his past to say which category he most falls into. Regarding Trump's supporters buying the whole kit-and-kabootle, if so, I suspect there may be a breaking point if he tack's too far left (as I feel he is starting to do in the primary, e.g. health-care). Thanks for your response.
153 posted on 02/03/2016 3:53:40 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Vote Cruz. In case of emergency, break glass, place fingers on nose, squeeze gently, vote Trump.)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Good attitude !

I prefer Trump, but will vote for either Trump or Cruz.


154 posted on 02/03/2016 3:54:03 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: drewh
the GOPe's are gonna serve us a steaming hot plate of bubble boy unfortunately

I don't think so. The people are right surely pissed!

On another note: Rush was really, really pushing Rubio down the listeners' throats today. He really likes Rubio. There was a time I really liked Rubio. But, after the Gang of 8, I lost complete respect for him. And, I turned off repeat and repeat and repeat again, Hannity.

PS: Sorry for using really so much...

155 posted on 02/03/2016 3:58:47 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: libbylu

What, you have no sense of humor?


156 posted on 02/03/2016 3:59:49 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Trumpinator
How is it someone can claim to be lifetime conservative but always working for the govt?

I don't know. Why don't you ask a soldier? Many of them have worked for the government up to their dying day.

157 posted on 02/03/2016 4:02:26 PM PST by Family Guy (A society's first line of defense is not the law but customs, traditions and moral values. -Williams)
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To: DoughtyOne

I guess I understood when trump supporters overlooked Trump’s lack of conservatism due to his WINNING ways. He, afterall, had YOOOGE lead. But, it turns out, Trump is a loser. So, it leads me to ask this question: why is anyone on FR supporting a LOSER progressive?


158 posted on 02/03/2016 4:07:06 PM PST by sagar (3 way race; cranky populist - Trump/Sanders, establishment - Roobio/Hillary, conservative - Cruz!)
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To: Trumpinator

“How is it someone can claim to be lifetime conservative but always working for the govt?”

That’s not true.


159 posted on 02/03/2016 4:13:44 PM PST by IAMNO1 (Vote Cruz. In case of emergency, break glass, place fingers on nose, squeeze gently, vote Trump.)
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To: Jim Robinson
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160 posted on 02/03/2016 4:37:19 PM PST by mkjessup (Sarah Palin says "GO TRUMP GO!!!!")
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