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Can Ted Cruz, a former Canadian citizen, be president?
CNN ^ | 1/29/2016 | Drew Griffin

Posted on 01/30/2016 4:20:28 AM PST by ironman

CNN's Drew Griffin investigates Ted Cruz's eligibility.

Video ran on Anderson Cooper 360.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afterbirthers; birthers; cruz; naturalborncitizen; yab; yetanotherbirther
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To: Abbeville Conservative
Oh come on, I really like Cincinatus' Wife. I wish we weren't always baiting each other here, in the end we all need to band together. Take the debate as far as we can to make our point, but let's not destroy each other.

I've seen too many good, decent and fun Freepers drop off over the years. I hate seeing it happen every election cycle.

121 posted on 01/30/2016 7:42:53 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Beagle8U

He has said she was a naturalized U.S. citizen. When exactly? I’m not sure. Yet you are so quick to say “Nope”, when you don’t know either.


122 posted on 01/30/2016 7:43:45 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: AFret.

This speaks volumes..he’s playing us, and trusting Texans, for fools..

He still refuses to release his birth documents..we can only wonder what is under that rock.

This kind of shell game reminds me an article I read about the clintons, shortly after bill’s election, (and prior to his impeachment).

A reporter asked, what was the “First thing B & H did when they woke up in the White House that first morning?”....”They Laughed”, replied H.

Later it occurred to me that they laughed because they had successfully hoodwinked the electorate.

Mr cruz is displaying the same contempt for us...ominous
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I didn’t say that correctly..I meant to say..”We Laughed”..the point being that they did not pray, display humility, or commit to each other to work each day for the citizens of America...no, “We Laughed”..I’ll never forget it.... volumes.


123 posted on 01/30/2016 7:44:02 AM PST by AFret.
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine
A natural born citizen is one who was born in the USA by parents of which at least one was a legal Citizen of the United States of America at the time of his or her birth.

False.

A natural born Citizen is born in the country to Citizen parents (Natural Law). Anything else is a statutory citizen (man made law).

124 posted on 01/30/2016 7:45:11 AM PST by Godebert
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To: WhiskeyX

Did Rubio ever hold Cuban citizenship?


125 posted on 01/30/2016 7:46:31 AM PST by grania
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To: BCrago66

Ad Hominem argument. You lose.


126 posted on 01/30/2016 7:48:01 AM PST by Godebert
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To: ironman
I am sadly beginning to think the country will not have to worry about Cruz in a general election. Ever. More likely to be Trump/Rubio.
127 posted on 01/30/2016 7:51:54 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (I like Trump and Cruz. Leave me the heck alone.)
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To: Badboo
You offered, insightfully, "You are exactly right, but whether they wish to admit it or not, they that support Cruz are on the same side of history of those who wish to destroy the Constitutional foundation of the nation."

The reality IS that this is no longer a Constitutional Republic. It ceased to be that a few decades ago as the subPreme Court set the Constitution aside for 'penumbra rulings'. With the advent of Roberts on the court, it is clear that owned (read blackmailed) judges now rule a usurped We The People. The democrats have achieved what they only dreamt of a few deacdes ago. They ended the Constitutional Republic long ago, and evidence of that is the 1973 Roe ruling which made murder a right for pregnant women, defining pregnancy as a disease for which murder of the alive unborn is an acceptable cure, so long as the pregnant woman wants to be rid of the alive unborn child..

128 posted on 01/30/2016 7:53:49 AM PST by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: Popman
8 U.S. Code 1401 - Nationals and citizens of United States at birth....says he is eligible...

You can't create a natural born Citizen with any statutory law (man made). Per the U.S. Constitution, congress only has the power of naturalization. ARTICLE I, SECTION 8, CLAUSE 4

129 posted on 01/30/2016 7:54:44 AM PST by Godebert
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To: bushpilot2

Posting information from the Obama administration website from 2016 to support your argument? That’s just plain pathetic.


130 posted on 01/30/2016 8:01:54 AM PST by Godebert
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To: Cboldt

“I guess my point is that you could take 301(a)(1) out of there. Citizenship to us-born would still attach by the 14th amendment, and not depend on a statute, like Cruz’s does.”

No, because you are missing how the purpose of Sec. 301(a)(1) is to serve as the statute that implements the imperative or mandate of the 14th Amendment. In other words, just as the Constitution enumerates the power for the Congress “To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization”, that Rule of Naturalization is embodied within the U.S. Code Title 8 statutes. Likewise, the 14th Amendment to the Constitution also implements its mandate in the same Rule of Naturalization embodied within the U.S. Code Title 8 statutes.

“NBC is a legal term of art. It’s not expounded in the constitution,”

It is not supposed to be “expounded in the Constitution”, because it is natural law already expounded upon in millennia of common law traditions and acted upon in the courts of law relying upon common law judgments and case law.


131 posted on 01/30/2016 8:03:13 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Kudsman
"...so unbecoming. And childish."

Because I'm leery of a candidate that panders to the ethanol lobby and has unclear social positions?
Because I'm not smitten by a huckster like a 14 year-old school-girl?
Nice.

132 posted on 01/30/2016 8:03:43 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; Liz; Cboldt; John Valentine; Carry_Okie
He might win in court, very likely. But too many originalist interpretations would define him as ineligible. Will never be a slam-dunk answer to vindicate Cruz.

Those that include one born in another country to a non-citizen parent as a NBC, reduce NBC to the lowest possible form of citizenship; a form that requires governmental acknowledgment to even exist.

One can argue the language the founders used when they created the position of Commander-in-Chief doesn't require an "originalist interpretation" at all. Out of the entire government scheme, they required NBC for this office alone. Because the founders were giving the CiC of the nation's armed services unlimited power and authority over the nation, they intended he not be subject to the influence of any other country through birth or parentage.

Those who argue that is not what the founder's intended have the burden of proving otherwise.

133 posted on 01/30/2016 8:09:50 AM PST by frog in a pot (What if a previous liberal D says most of the things we are not hearing from the R candidates?)
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To: Patriot Babe

What about Marco Rubio? This dude is an Anchor Baby. If Marco wins than alot of Anchor Babies can run for president. His parents were not US Citizens when he was born. Where is the attack on him?
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Rubio is a dead man walking.

The light is not him because he poses no threat...yet.

He sees Raphael is twisting in the wind and knows that his days are numbered. marco is raking in as much cash as he can before pulling the plug.


134 posted on 01/30/2016 8:11:46 AM PST by AFret.
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To: Beagle8U
When she was married has no bearing on when she gained citizenship, if in fact she ever did."

Mary Anne Trump's naturalization card shows that she became a US citizen in 1942, four years before her son Donald was born in 1946.

Donald Trump was born in the country of two Citizen parents. He is a natural born Citizen of the United States of America.


135 posted on 01/30/2016 8:12:47 AM PST by Godebert
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To: dowcaet

Personally, I’m afraid the damage has already been done and the perception of Ted Cruz the Canadian is already in the minds of tens of millions of Americans.


Good, about time the electorate put’s down their cheeseburgers and pays attention for a change..


136 posted on 01/30/2016 8:15:44 AM PST by AFret.
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To: dowcaet

Yes. This issue has to be confronted and resolved in a very real way. Maybe Cruz himself could do it by using some of his $19 million in cash to fund a lawsuit against his own candidacy. Somehow. Just a thought.


137 posted on 01/30/2016 8:15:44 AM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: grania

“Did Rubio ever hold Cuban citizenship?”

Cuban law did provide a means for expatriate Cuban citizens and their children to naturalize at birth or after birth as Cuban citizens if acted upon within a specified period of time. There are no indications I know about where Marco Rubio would have adopted the naturalized Cuban citizenship. In any case, Marco Rubio was born with a divided allegiance by birth with respect to Cuban citizenship and at birth with respect to U.S. citizenship.


138 posted on 01/30/2016 8:15:46 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: TornadoAlley3

“More likely to be Trump/Rubio.”

Marco Rubio is also a naturalized U.S. citizen, who is also not any more eligible to be a lawful President than Ted Cruz or Arnold Schwarzenegger.


139 posted on 01/30/2016 8:25:32 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Godebert

Donald Trump was born in the country of two Citizen parents. He is a natural born Citizen of the United States of America.
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Trumps meets the gold standard for natural born citizenship. No question whatsoever.


140 posted on 01/30/2016 8:27:17 AM PST by ironman
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