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Catholics should not try to convert Jews, Vatican
Oceanside Post ^ | 12/24/15 | Noah Barnes

Posted on 12/26/2015 5:55:09 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

.....In its most explicit commentary on evangelization regarding Jews, the document said Catholics should take a different approach to Judaism than to other religions.

There have been major steps forward in Christian-Jewish dialogue since the Nostra Aetate declaration issuing from the second Vatican Council was published, the document read. Does that make sense?

"There can not be two ways of salvation, therefore, since Christ is also the Redeemer of the Jews in addition to the Gentiles". This document, however, rejects this, retaining that "there can only be one single convenant history of God with humanity".

"Each of these covenants incorporates the previous covenant and interprets it in a new way", the document says. Christ's death and resurrection beckoned "neither the annulment nor the replacement, but the fulfilment of the promises of the Old Covenant".

(Excerpt) Read more at oceansidepost.com ...


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The article is very confusing...but if Francis and his underlings are TRULY rejecting Jesus as the Messiah for both Jew and Gentile, the action is a complete repudiation of the teachings of Jesus and the apostles.
1 posted on 12/26/2015 5:55:09 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well this is the Obama version of a Pope in charge of screwing things up here.


2 posted on 12/26/2015 6:01:53 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.e)
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To: SoFloFreeper

“And the angel said to them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to ALL people.”


3 posted on 12/26/2015 6:02:13 AM PST by Buttons12
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To: SoFloFreeper
Yep. This Pope has truly gone over the deep edge on this one.

I was a practicing Catholic before this guy. I could not however, in good conscience, continue to follow a religion who's head routinely espouses behaviors diametrically opposed to the teachings of the Bible.

4 posted on 12/26/2015 6:03:20 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

This Pope doesn’t understand Christianity


5 posted on 12/26/2015 6:06:33 AM PST by scooby321
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To: SoFloFreeper

The Inquistion, let's begin
The Inquistion, look out sin
We have a mission to convert the Jews (Jew ja Jew ja Jew ja Jews)

We're gonna teach them wrong from right
We're gonna help them see the light
And make an offer that they can't refuse (that the Jews just can't

refuse)


6 posted on 12/26/2015 6:06:58 AM PST by freedumb2003 (Don't mistake my silence for ignorance, my calmness for acceptance, or my kindness for weakness)
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To: SoFloFreeper

So according to Francis we should remove Acts 1:8 from the Bible, right?


7 posted on 12/26/2015 6:10:05 AM PST by Obadiah (Jeb! Because America needs more cowbell.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I am RC. And I deplore prosthelytizing by any religion. My ultimate hatred of prosthelytizing is, of course, directed at the Muzzies who will decapitate you for failure to buy their halal baloney. And this will most likely end in a 21st century Crusade (and soon I hope).


8 posted on 12/26/2015 6:10:16 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: freedumb2003

Bring out the nuns


9 posted on 12/26/2015 6:11:45 AM PST by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yeah, Jesus would have shown political correctness, too, right? /s

Let’s restrain ourselves from sharing God’s Love and withhold the Living Word and Water from God’s chosen people! /s

HF

And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved. (Acts 4:12)


10 posted on 12/26/2015 6:13:18 AM PST by holden
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To: traderrob6
I was a practicing Catholic before this guy. I could not however, in good conscience, continue to follow a religion who's head routinely espouses behaviors diametrically opposed to the teachings of the Bible.

I hope your kidding. Popes come and go, but Christ's Biblically established Church endures forever.
11 posted on 12/26/2015 6:14:29 AM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: scooby321
Merry Christmas folks.

The whole point here is to leave the Jews the heck alone.

Classic Catholic doctrine is responsible for the violent death of Jews for 2,000 years.

Love your faith? Keep it!

Stop seeing the Jews as Judas. Christ lived as a Jew as so were all his apostles. THEY modified and created Christianity so remove the burden and embrace the Jew.

Ever see modern Judaism proselytizing or lopping off heads?

12 posted on 12/26/2015 6:22:13 AM PST by Netz
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I am a traditionalist Catholic. While I am not comfortable with forcing my religion on others, Jesus instructed his disciples to become fishermen and bring the Good News of his coming to ALL OF the world. I try doing that by example and instruction, when questioned, by openly practicing my Faith..daily prayer, grace before meals (Wherever I am), we are not called to hide our lights under baskets, but to let them shine for all the world to see. If you call this proselytizing...call me guilty.


13 posted on 12/26/2015 6:23:56 AM PST by coloradomomba (Lord God...please use me.)
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14 posted on 12/26/2015 6:25:34 AM PST by SJackson (Everybody has a plan until they get hit. Mike Tyson)
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To: traderrob6

Nowhere in the article does it say what the headline reads. The part about the New Testament being a fulfillment of the Old is nothing new either.


15 posted on 12/26/2015 6:29:53 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: SoFloFreeper
Here's a related thread from a while back (12/16/15 article discusses NYT story.)
16 posted on 12/26/2015 6:32:22 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It depends on what is meant by “try”.Neither Jews nor Christians should *force* the other to convert.That’s pretty obvious.But friendly persuasion....


17 posted on 12/26/2015 6:33:50 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Vaquero
I am RC. And I deplore prosthelytizing by any religion.

Don't know what to tell ya. Jesus commands it.

18 posted on 12/26/2015 6:34:22 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Netz

not unless you count the millionaire liberal ones in this country :)

pushing abortion and gay marriage is just odd for Christian or Jew.

But come on, 70/30 for democrat president In polls? If you leave Orthodox out, i’d hate to see the numbers in favor of dems.

makes no sense.

Thank goodness Israelis are not as liberal. They would have never survived.


19 posted on 12/26/2015 6:34:56 AM PST by dp0622
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To: SoFloFreeper

Jews are in need of Jesus as much as anyone else.

If the Vatican is saying otherwise it is preaching ‘another Gospel.’

For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 1 Timnthy 2:5

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! Galatians 1:8


20 posted on 12/26/2015 6:35:24 AM PST by TigerClaws
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