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Final points:
1. Obama and his Comrades in the national socialist left (including Comrade Clinton) have been acting lawlessly for years now, so why should the 'little people' have to do the same?

2. The Feral Government does not have the authority to control the people's private property with Intergalactic Background Checks.

3. It should be clear by now that the national socialist left desperately wants to ban and confiscate guns.

4. As outlined by their own words, national socialist left wants to use Intergalactic Background Checks and registration to set up for their ultimate goal.

5. Patriots should NOT acquiesce to either knowing the ultimate outcome of the exercise.

1 posted on 12/24/2015 8:55:25 AM PST by Torcert
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To: Torcert
Step 1) Get guns off the streets of Chicago.

Step 2) Wait a bazzillion years for that to happen.

2 posted on 12/24/2015 8:59:41 AM PST by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Torcert
CHOKE 2
3 posted on 12/24/2015 9:00:43 AM PST by baddog 219
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The media (of course) is on it, too. When there is a shooting in a home, protecting it, that is, I notice more and more that they show a satellite map of exactly where that home is.


4 posted on 12/24/2015 9:03:14 AM PST by Thorliveshere
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A nice visit by the ATF or state police to find out if he really does still have those guns would be certainly warranted.

You really, really don't want to start down that path. However, if you think you do, go ahead.

5 posted on 12/24/2015 9:03:17 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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The problem with any gun-grabbing strategy is that it isn’t working by any objective measure. It’s actually beyond that. As time goes on, it’s actually working in reverse ... as more and more people buy more and more guns and ammunition to protect themselves from a government that is incompetent at best and malevolent at worst.


8 posted on 12/24/2015 9:10:50 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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Members of firearm confiscation squads had better be willing to die doing their job or it just won’t work.


9 posted on 12/24/2015 9:11:01 AM PST by dainbramaged (Get out of my country now)
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To: Torcert
Liberals want to ban guns for multiple reasons.

One of them is the simple fact that they just cannot stand it when others hold beliefs different than theirs or think or act differently then they do.

They are all for diversity as long as others do not live or act in ways that that do not meet with their approval.


10 posted on 12/24/2015 9:14:36 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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Take my GUN’S?

I Sill have My Blacksmith forged Tri-Angular Bits. The Crossbow has a 150# pull Weight..


11 posted on 12/24/2015 9:16:53 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Nothing new. Nelson “Pete” Shields spelled it out back in 1976.

Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields
Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.

“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest.

Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.

So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.

My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the POSSESSION of all HANDGUNS and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — TOTALLY ILLEGAL.”

-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58

“Yes, I’m for an outright ban [on handguns].”

-Pete Shields, Chairman emeritus, Handgun Control, Inc., 60 Minutes interview

HCI, around 1984, came out in favor of a ban on semi-auto rifles and shotguns.


13 posted on 12/24/2015 9:21:15 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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A nice visit by the ATF or state police to find out if he really does still have those guns would be certainly warranted.

A few of those "nice" visits may wind up with a few missing ATF agents. I'm thinking they could wind up being tractor food on a very large ranch.

But hey guys, take your chances.

15 posted on 12/24/2015 9:24:00 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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We want to encourage as much voluntary compliance as possible.

HOW VOLUNTARY COMPLIANCE WILL WORK

The Libtards are always going on about our "voluntary" income tax system.

People "volunteer" to pay federal income tax because we are threatened with financial ruin and prison if we don't.

The Feral Goovernment's "voluntary compliance" with gun laws works the same way.

How many shooters would have suppressors or sawed off shotguns if we weren't threatened with prosecution, fines and prison or fearful of assassination by the FBI or ATF like Vicki and Samuel Weaver at Ruby Ridge?


16 posted on 12/24/2015 9:28:56 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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These people are just evil and just puppets for the New World Order.


18 posted on 12/24/2015 9:29:25 AM PST by Vic S
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Gun owners and support for the 2nd amendment are really the only things preventing the Feds from going totally fascist.

If confiscation does come about, I doubt we will have any lengthy political process that gives gun owners time to plan, organize and resist. What seems likely is a national crisis such as WW3, or catastrophic economic collapse that overshadows the gun issue in the eyes of the general public so that gun confiscation is seen as a necessity in a greater effort.

That’s why individuals and small groups need to plan now. We need to think about group storage, communications, alternate identities, safe houses, rally points.

They won’t come for the guns; they will come for the gun owners.


19 posted on 12/24/2015 9:36:08 AM PST by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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Steph Curry is going to air an anti gun commercial during the NBA game tomorrow. Funded by former NYC mayor. as per Fox News


20 posted on 12/24/2015 9:40:49 AM PST by 2nd Amendment (Proud member of the 48% . . giver not a taker)
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Nothing more than a totalitarian’s wet dream. If the shooting starts, it is only fitting that the people advocating gun control be its first victims.


25 posted on 12/24/2015 9:45:53 AM PST by IronJack
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To: Torcert

Pretty close.

The way to really turn the screws is to simply make it MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE (in more ways than one) to own guns and profitable to get rid of them. Here are a few steps in that direction:

1) Locks to prevent kids from using them
2) Separate ammo from weapons, and store it locked up also
3) Gun safes that cost maybe $500, or more
4) Insurance (as stated in the article)
5) Ending the Castle Doctrine and again exposing owners to liability if they use their guns in self-defense
6) Madatory licensing of gun owners, along with required range time on a regular basis
7) Expanding the list of what qualifies as a ban on ownership
8) Show trials for a handful of people for ‘technical violations’ of the new laws (such as not making it to range in 7 months, given a 6 month requirement). Then making sure that the person is JAILED for some amount of time, with their prior life TOTALLY RUINED because of their ‘violation’.
9) Require ‘Smart Gun’ technology. Require tracking of ammo. Prohibit ownership of untraceable ammo after a certain grace period.

Bottom line of the above is to convince people that gun ownership is simply NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE.

Then the CARROTS. Pay owners a sizable amount of money (maybe $300-$500 for a handgun) to turn-in their weapons if they agree to never own a gun again. Make it worth their while.

The numbers of owners then decline, and along with that, the political strength of gun owners.

Then GO FOR THE KILL, which is to prohibit private ownership unless an immediate need can be PROVEN. Then it’s game over for gun owners.

That’s the complete plan - and as it progresses (and the number of gun owners decline) it gets HARDER AND HARDER to stop it. That’s why gun owners sometimes seem ‘unreasonable’ when they oppose so-called ‘common-sense gun control’.


32 posted on 12/24/2015 10:23:29 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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Stop them bump


37 posted on 12/24/2015 11:12:04 AM PST by CPT Clay (Hillary: Julius and Ethal Rosenberg were electrocuted for selling classified info.)
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Thanks for this.

Evil are those who would deprive their fellow humans of the means of self-defense. - frog in a pot 2015

38 posted on 12/24/2015 11:21:45 AM PST by frog in a pot (What if only a previous Democrat says most of the things we want to hear from the Republicans?)
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So their step one is something that won’t happen and step two is something has a long history across multiple countries with multiple products of not working. And thus shows why it will never happen.


50 posted on 12/24/2015 2:22:53 PM PST by discostu (Up-Up-Down-Down-Left-Right-Left-Right B, A, Start)
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55 posted on 12/25/2015 8:17:15 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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