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Trump's limitless pandering

"............. In most circumstances, the killing of a police officer is a state offense and each state sets the penalty for it. Some have decided that the penalty should be death. Others have decided that it should not be. Some states do not have the death penalty at all. No president can change that. Nor can a president override the judgement of the judge or jury responsible for sentencing.

This is all basic civics. People running for president should understand such things.

Panderers are everywhere in politics, and the more outrageous they sound, the more obvious it is that they are lying and that they will say anything to win election.

Many outsiders run for office, but the successful ones tend to study the job they plan to do. Trump comes from a world of business, and in that world, he makes decisions and people dutifully carry them out. If he says, "You're fired," then you have to clear your desk.

But that is not so in the world of American government. The founding fathers designed the system to frustrate ambitious, power-hungry executives who want to make big changes and accomplish things.

That includes Barack Obama, who in his arrogance and amid his own bout of re-election pandering once asserted that his agenda could not wait for Congress to act. It also includes Trump, whose campaign might well demonstrate just how far a politician can get if he does nothing else besides pander."

1 posted on 12/11/2015 11:57:00 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump spoke tonight in Des Moines, IA

I watched the entire speech.

He said Cruz was against ethanol and he, Trump, was not.

He was taking questions from the audience and when asked about it he said he guessed it was because Cruz was from an oil state, texas, and was somewhat beholding to big oil because they donate to his campaign.

In another question he was asked if there were a place for Cruz either on his ticket or with the SC as a justice.

Trump replied that he liked Cruz a lot and that if he, Trump, were elected there would definitely be a high place for Cruz. He made a few more complimentary comments also.

My point: If you didn’t watch the entire speech and the Q&A then you’re simply responding to an article designed to pit Trump against Cruz and that IS NOT what went down.


2 posted on 12/11/2015 11:59:14 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump-bashing now?

:D

Everyone needs to tone down the rhetoric just a bit.


3 posted on 12/11/2015 11:59:24 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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Corrected LINK:

"Donald Trump attacked Ted Cruz for not supporting ethanol subsidies. He said in Iowa on Friday, "Oil companies give him a lot of money, so he's for oil."

4 posted on 12/12/2015 12:00:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

cage match on. Cruz isn’t going to let trump distort his record. Cheap shot on the religion/Cuba thing too. Can’t wait to see Ted swimming the moat with the knife in his teeth, knowing how to fight
Without always being self aggrandizing and belittling/trashing anyone who does not kiss his butt.


12 posted on 12/12/2015 12:09:11 AM PST by libbylu (Trump - BICKERING LIKE A SCHOOLBOY. (I said it before Cruz did)!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I listened to that section of Trump’s speech a couple of times - and NOWHERE does he make commentary - one way or the other - about “subsidies.” He only stated that he supports ethanol and other forms of renewable energy.

That could be read as with or without the present subsidies. Being that ethanol has received such since 1979, and that it is now a mature business, I would argue that those subsidies will likely come to an end - particularly for reason of the higher costs they impose on the middle class.

However, the only way to know for certain is to ask Trump the direct question of whether he supports those subsidies - otherwise all of this effort by the anti-Trump crowd is nothing but speculation.


14 posted on 12/12/2015 12:10:35 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

False. Trump said nothing about ethanol subsidies.


26 posted on 12/12/2015 12:27:05 AM PST by conservative98
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Outside of Cruz, which Republican Contender is against Ethanol Subsidies?

I’m not for them, but the Congress has never been able to roll them back. I’m a Cruz guy but I doubt he would ever be able to eliminate them.

I don’t agree with Trump on this and other things, but he isn’t the only one at the Party. Like Cruz, he couldn’t eliminate them if he wanted to.

You can only hope that he or Cruz can come up with a Free Market solution that will keep both sides happy. I’m not holding my breathe since the Republicans are the ones who have always supported it. Grassley is the King of Ethanol.


34 posted on 12/12/2015 12:32:34 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, unable to call a Spade a Spade...)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Mark Levin on his show said the media is trying to provoke a Cruz vs. Trump fight.

He said do you notice that no one ever tries to get Graham to attack Kasich or Jeb to attack Kasich. It is always Trump and Cruz that they are trying to pit against each other.

Notice headline: “Trump ATTACKS Ted Cruz.”

38 posted on 12/12/2015 12:36:40 AM PST by detective
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I just want these two to debate, one-on-one about the issues. I don’t care about jabs and I don’t care about meaningless bombast. Just the issues. Bluster isn’t impressive. Can we just get these other yahoos to bow out already so we can get this over with? I will say that I’ll support whoever is the nominee, because we won’t survive another term of Obamunism.


46 posted on 12/12/2015 12:44:21 AM PST by Squeako (Trump: The Red Kool-Aid to Obama's Blue Kool-Aid.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump is a big government, big spending RINO. Cruz is not. That’s the major difference between them.


102 posted on 12/12/2015 3:56:11 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

While I support Trump, I really hate ethanol subsidies and MANDATES.

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Most importantly, it is a sham that artificially raises gas prices and strains the food supply ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3365989/posts

“...A 2008 study published in Science magazine found that corn-based ethanol increases greenhouse gas emissions instead of reducing them. A 2009 study concluded that plowing fields to grow corn for ethanol could release more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than ethanol offsets...”

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Even Jay Leno hates it:

Jay Leno hates ethanol

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3266647/posts

There have been a lot of old-car fires lately ... Here’s one reason: The ethanol in modern gasoline—about 10 percent in many states—is so corrosive, it eats through either the fuel-pump diaphragm, old rubber fuel lines or a pot metal part, then leaks out on a hot engine … and ka-bloooooie!!! [snip]

Ethanol will absorb water from ambient air. In a modern vehicle, with a sealed fuel system, ethanol fuel has a harder time picking up water from the air. But in a vintage car, the water content of fuel can rise, causing corrosion and inhibiting combustion. [snip]

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Cruz denounces boost in ethanol during Q-C stop (Quad City, IA)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3366851/posts

“... it shouldn’t be Washington picking winners and losers ... corporate welfare ...”


128 posted on 12/12/2015 5:33:25 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (st)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It looks like ethanol is gonna become the "single-issue that really matters" to some and they will need no more than a couple blurbs to decide that nothing else matters like whether or not we continue with ethanol.

We are freaking doomed because of all the idiots ...

Now for a short public service announcement to all on FR:
We need to ensure we don't get another Obama-like America Hater as the next President.
The best way to ensure that is to actively support a candidate as the next President.
I prefer Cruz and my money goes to his campaign, hence the Cruz link. If you like someone else, donate to him/her (find your own link to do it) and if you use FR and don't donate, then please don't complain about the welfare leeches or those who have Obama Phones because, functionally, you are no different than any other FReeloader

PS - If you are one of those who cannot afford even a small donation to FR or a candidate, God Bless and happy FReeping!.....

GO CRUZ!! Keep it up Trump!!

Donate to FR

Donate to Cruz

Donate to FR

129 posted on 12/12/2015 5:59:17 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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134 posted on 12/12/2015 6:17:52 AM PST by erod (Chicago Conservative | Cruz or Lose!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Where’s Giuliani on ethanol subsidies?


138 posted on 12/12/2015 7:14:47 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

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Trump again shows himself completely unfit for the office.

Use of Ethanol in fuels is destructive across the board.

It is also destructive to the land, and to the availability of food crops at a reasonable price.

Trump the Democrat shows up every time he is bumped or scratched.
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149 posted on 12/12/2015 10:35:00 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Now Trump is clearly pandering to his audience. Ethanol should not be subsidized. It also shouldn’t be mandated in gasoline.


158 posted on 12/12/2015 10:51:55 AM PST by Oceander
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Trump is wrong on ethanol subsidies. The best argument for ethanol subsidies is that they should be phased out rather than just ended. As Huckabee says, it's not the farmers' fault that the government EPA went whole hog on this and involved the farmers in it. The good news is that 'gallon for gallon' is true but that overall return is not true. While gallon for gallon gasoline is cheaper, it is barely ever mentioned that the fermented corn used to make ethanol is STILL good for livestock feed.

So, it gets double use, and that really should be part of the value analysis and it seldom is.

So, I support Trump's position to the extent it eventually phases out subsidies, and I support Cruz's position to the extent it phases out subsidies. And the phaseout should be based on the total value and not only on 'gallon to gallon' value.

165 posted on 12/12/2015 11:12:48 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support the troops pray for their victory!)
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Ethanol, on the other hand, does require big government subsidies, because it is highly uneconomical. Ethanol is much more expensive than oil and gas and, gallon for gallon, produces much less energy than gasoline. That's why the government has to hand over billions in subsidies to big agri-businesses to keep it going. And that's also why the government has to force oil companies to blend ethanol in with their fuels.

All of that is true.

Additionally, ethanol actually acts as a corrosive on car engines. It slowly degrades car parts over time.

Yeah, not so much. Unless the engine/vehicle is old and pre-alcohol fuel. Then, mostly rubber parts suffer. Any corrosion comes from water.

...without government coercion, oil companies wouldn't do it, and the price of gasoline would be substantially lower than it is now.

I recently drove through a midwestern state where you can buy either straight regular, or ethanol blend. The straight gasoline was quite a bit more expensive.

184 posted on 12/12/2015 11:47:17 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It will be entertaining to see how Cruz answers it. Cruz has been consistently conservative, gracious and factual.


218 posted on 12/12/2015 12:51:24 PM PST by FourPeas (Tone matters.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Think we've had enough of this!
302 posted on 12/13/2015 3:19:44 PM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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