Turkey releases audio of 'warning' to downed Russia jet

BBC ^ | 3 hours ago, 2015-11-26 | BBC

[WhiskeyX]

The Turkish military has released an audio recording of what it says were warnings to a Russian warplane before it was shot down on the Syrian border.

"Change your heading south immediately," a voice says in English. Turkey said it had tried to rescue the SU-24 bomber's two pilots.

[ETL]

From 2012: Syria shoots down Turkish plane

"Turkey's prime minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, has threatened Syria with retaliation for shooting down a military jet, and warned that Turkish armed forces will respond to any Syrian encroachment on the border.

Nato secretary general Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the alliance stands by Turkey but is not considering a military response."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/middle-east-live/2012/jun/26/syria-crisis-nato-meeting-live
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Graphic showing where the Turkish F-4 Phantom went down 

[Sacajaweau]

The warning does not say they are in their airspace.

And the Russian pilots understood English? And they knew that how?

[McGruff]

“A short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack” - Turkey’s Erdogan in 2012

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151125/1030698044/erdogan-airspace-violation-contradiction.html#ixzz3sXKS3OZN

[Husker24]

I could barely understand any of that.

[1rudeboy]

Spam, wonderful spam.

[VitacoreVision]

Turkey threatens Russia over bid to OBLITERATE sick Islamic State terrorists
RUSSIA and Turkey are in deadlock after the latter threatened Moscow with “serious consequences” if it continues its bomb assault on Syria.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/621034/ISIS-Putin-Russia-Turkey-Moscow-ISIL-Islamic-State-IS-Ankara-terror-Paris

Express UK
Nov. 22, 2015

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http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/01/turkey-syria-intelligence-service-shipping-weapons.html

Al-monitor
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[1rudeboy]

It’s the international language of aviation. You expect Russians to know Turkish?

[scooby321]

Turkey your in a world of hurt

[McGruff]

“Turkish officials also say they did not know the jet was Russian until they had shot it down.”

That’s how airliners get shot down.

[mkjessup]

It's the international language of aviation. You expect Russians to know Turkish?

[WhiskeyX]

“The warning does not say they are in their airspace.”

The Turkish air traffic controller warned the pilot of what was then an unidentified aircraft to immediately divert on a new heading to the South by the authority of the Turkish Air Force. This warning and command was broadcast of the guard channel every pilot is required to monitor for emergency air traffic control instructions, such as this warning to immediately change course. Given the imminent danger, this warning was clear and easily understood to imply the Turkish Air Force would fire upon the unidentified aircraft if its pilot did not take and immediate southern heading to avoid Turkish air space and Turkish air defenses.

“And the Russian pilots understood English? And they knew that how?”

The English language is the mandatory international language to be used by all licensed pilots and aviation authorities worldwide to avoid misunderstandings in radio communications. Every licensed Russian commercial and military pilot is required to be proficient with enough of the English language to conduct radio communications with all air traffic control and ICAO authorities. Every licensed pilot is required to monitor the radio communications guard channel as required by the ICAO and numerous international agreements.

The Russian aircrew disregarded the Turkish Air Force warnings, did not hear the Turkish Air Force warnings because they neglected to monitor the guard channel, were ordered to disregard warnings on the guard channel, or had their available radio frequencies in their radio sets restricted by their command as they formerly did in the Soviet era to prevent unauthorized communications by the pilots (highly unlikely in this day and age). In any case, the Russian pilots know/knew enough English and enough about ICAO rules to be aware of their responsibilities to identify their aircraft to air traffic controllers, monitor the guard channel, and not to overfly Turkish airspace without being willing to suffer the consequences for doing so.

The Russian government is lying.

[USNBandit]

How can the Turks claim to have attempted a rescue? That would have involved going into Syria.

[ETL]

I could barely understand any of that.

Not sure what you mean. Was the text mistranslated on your end with those weird special characters? It wasn't and isn't on mine.

[WhiskeyX]

“How can the Turks claim to have attempted a rescue? That would have involved going into Syria.”

The Syrian Army has no presence in what is in effect a lawless area where Syria is not exercising its de jure sovereignty.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

What was the excuse given why they shot the pilot coming down in a parachute?

[Seruzawa]

Russians lying. What a surprise. /s

[USNBandit]

So the Turks shoot down a plane for entering their airspace and the way they are going to launch a CSAR effort into Syria’s airspace? Totally implausible. The Turks seem to have some serious regrets over this.

[katana]

Aviation communication world wide by international convention is conducted in English, at least at the level of commercial and civil air, and I’d expect it’s the lingua franca for warning off “errant” military aircraft as well. The French are probably still offended by this, but they do have “Mayday” (m’aidez = “Help Me”) as the ultimate emergency message.

[Moltke]

“Recorded just this morning!”