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A society that regards women fighting as "entertainment' is headed down the tubes.
11-15-2015 | self

Posted on 11/15/2015 10:16:56 AM PST by MarvinStinson

A culture that regards women fighting as entertainment is headed down the last circle of the toilet.

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As far as the fight went, Rousey looked like someone brought in straight off the the street who did not have a clue what to do.

Rouseys million dollar trainers, with their ridiculous punching mitts, are completely incompetent.

In boxing a fighter with a normal stance has the left leg and the left arm forward. The forward left arm is used to jab and sometimes to hook, a heavier punch. But the straight right hand is the basic heavier punch for a normal stance fighter.

Everything is reversed for a southpaw fighter who has the right foot and right hand in front and uses the right hand to jab and whose heaviest punch is a straight left hand.

The first rule for a normal stance fighter fighting a southpaw, who has right foot and hand in front, is never throw a right hand to the body from long range, because you would be leaving your head wide open to your southpaw opponents heaviest punch, his straight left hand, which he is poised and waiting to throw.

Rouseys so-called trainers did not even tell her she was fighting a southpaw.

They did not even tell her to watch her opponents left hand.

Clueless Rousey stepped directly into her southpaw opponents heaviest punch, her straight left hand. repeatedly.

It was not a jab, but the heaviest punch her opponent could throw. It landed repeatedly on Rouseys mouth and chin.

If this million dollar crap had been a gym workout, any experienced trainer would have stopped it after one or two such punches and explained to Rousey what is involved in fighting a southpaw. And that she had a lot of work to do before she would be ready to take on an experienced southpaw.

Of course they would not have put her in the ring with an experienced southpaw to start with until they educated her on what was involved.

Not one blowhard commentator mentioned the above, which would be obvious at a glance to anyone competent in the subject.

Rousey was badly winded before the first round was over. Yet she trains?

Rousey was knocked out by a kick to the neck, not the head.

Rousey had just slipped down with her back to her opponent after getting hit on the chin with yet another straight left hand.

Her opponent put her hand on Rouseys lower back and turned her around, helping as Rousey straightened up and turned to face her.

The opponent put her right arm on Rouseys shoulder to hold her in place as she (the opponent) lifted her left leg high with the knee bent so that the heel of her foot was touching her own bottom. Then from that position she snapped her leg open from the knee, landing with her shin on the side of Rouseys neck. Rousey was knocked out and fell hard, with the side of her head bouncing hard off the canvas.

Rousey looked very bad once she was up minutes later, with her head hanging forward, her eyes at the floor and all the muscles of her face collapsed, drooping downward.

Experienced boxing people, there are none left, would call this a mismatch that should never have taken place.

Once again, a society that regards the repulsive spectacle of women fighting as entertaining is headed down the tubes.

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PS In 1922 RING magazine founder Nat Fleischer wrote

As for women boxing, blows to the breast cause breast cancer. SUBJECT CLOSED.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: hollyholm; mismatch; rondarousey; rousey; southpaw; vanity
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To: MarvinStinson

Good analysis. Holm also caught Rousey with a brutal left elbow in the first round. Agree, too, that Rousey did not look to be in fighting condition, although five minute rounds for anyone are daunting. Boxed 2 x 2-minute and 3 x 2-minute matches in school...as a southpaw. Just that was exhausting, and I was the fittest I’ve ever been.


21 posted on 11/15/2015 10:34:45 AM PST by twister881
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To: MarvinStinson

I didn’t see it. Did they fight like girls?


22 posted on 11/15/2015 10:35:22 AM PST by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: LostInBayport

What kind of fighting for sport is not “degenerate” then? Sports always originated as physical training for defense of a country.

Truly degenerate “sport” would be of the fight-to-the-death gladiator sort.


23 posted on 11/15/2015 10:35:30 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: MarvinStinson
A culture that regards women fighting as entertainment is headed down the last circle of the toilet.

So every civilization since the beginning of time?

Guys like watching fighting but they really enjoy watching women fight and always have. They entertain two fantasies, the first is either clothing will be shredded and/or come off the second is that the two girls will start kissing.

What can I tell you? Guys are strange.

24 posted on 11/15/2015 10:36:39 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: sparklite2

Rendering it as “enjoying female entertainment” is itself objectification.

As far as women being physical fighters, I know I’d rather have Boadicea taking my back in a scrap rather than Sappho. If it came down to such a choice.


25 posted on 11/15/2015 10:37:33 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: sparklite2
Gladiatoral contests ended when Rome became Christian because deliberate infliction of injuries on one's fellow man for sport was considered immoral.

In Christian Byzantium the preferred spectator sport was the chariot race.

26 posted on 11/15/2015 10:37:46 AM PST by wideawake
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To: MarvinStinson
As for women boxing, blows to the breast cause breast cancer.

No it doesn't.

27 posted on 11/15/2015 10:38:30 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: MarvinStinson
I thought this Rousey broad was supposed to be some kind of badass.

Looks like she needs to spend less time reading her own press clippings and more time training.
28 posted on 11/15/2015 10:38:56 AM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Olog-hai

Keep digging. There has to be
a pony in there somewhere.


29 posted on 11/15/2015 10:39:38 AM PST by sparklite2 (Islam = all bathwater, no baby.)
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To: wideawake

early NASCAR


30 posted on 11/15/2015 10:39:56 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: wideawake

Where you had as great if not greater a chance of being killed or injured? Often by the other drivers.


31 posted on 11/15/2015 10:40:06 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: sparklite2

So what’s “degenerate” about boxing?


32 posted on 11/15/2015 10:40:43 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: MarvinStinson

I never watched any of this sh!t and I don’t care about it one way or another, but even with my extremely limited knowledge of the subject I was happy to hear that this Ronda Rousey got her @ss kicked ... even if only to put a stop to this crap polluting the real sports pages.


33 posted on 11/15/2015 10:40:50 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: MarvinStinson
I agree. Any man who would watch, for pleasure, two women fight, is not civilized.

lots of that going around these days, it seems.

34 posted on 11/15/2015 10:45:29 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: MarvinStinson

Congratulations to Holly Holm.


35 posted on 11/15/2015 10:45:56 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: MarvinStinson
A society that regards women fighting as "entertainment' is headed down the tubes.

A society that profits from the harvesting of unborn baby parts is already far 'down the tubes' and knocking on the doorway to Hell!

36 posted on 11/15/2015 10:47:03 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Milton Miteybad

Maybe she needs to start ironing shirts and making sammiches.


37 posted on 11/15/2015 10:47:13 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: MarvinStinson
A society that regards women fighting as "entertainment' is headed down the tubes.

Nonsense. It's a free country. Get a grip.

38 posted on 11/15/2015 10:48:56 AM PST by sargon
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To: MarvinStinson

Ronda, feel the Bern.


39 posted on 11/15/2015 10:49:42 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: MarvinStinson
Rousey and Holm would disagree with you all the way to the bank. The rematch will be a bigger pay day for both of them.

Women's boxing first appeared in the Olympic Games at a demonstration bout in 1904. It is now an Olympic sport along with women's wrestling and ice hockey.

Women's boxing goes back at least to the early 18th century, when Elizabeth Wilkinson fought in London. Billing herself as the European Championess, she fought both men and women. In those days, the rules of boxing allowed kicking, gouging and other methods of attack not part of today's arsenal. Women's boxing dates back to the early 18th century with Elizabeth Wilkinson-Stokes fighting both men and women in the streets of London. During the 1700s, women boxed in staged competitions at dawn, before fans went to work. Back in the 1700s, women took part in more violent forms of fighting: kicking, scratching, and using other methods of attack are not parts of today's boxing rules. This new style of fighting became popular in England. Elizabeth Wilkinson-Stokes is credited for being the first female boxing champion in England.

Where do you draw the line as to what sports women can participate in?

40 posted on 11/15/2015 10:49:59 AM PST by kabar
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