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Trump, the business owner, joins struggle over when to carry gun
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | OCTOBER 31, 2015 | Patrik Jonsson

Posted on 10/31/2015 5:41:18 PM PDT by SteveinSATX

Donald Trumps assertion at Wednesdays Republican presidential debate that sickos take advantage of gun-free zones to kill people is complicated, it turns out, by the fact that many of his own hotel properties does not allow weapons, even if properly permitted.

Given that the remark happened on the fly during a debate and that Mr. Trump himself, by his own admission, only carries a firearm occasionally could explain the discrepancy between Trumps political beliefs and corporate policy at some of the properties that bear his name (as discovered by Reuters sleuthing.)

Yet Trumps primer on how Second Amendment rights and safety concerns underscores a difficult and evolving paradox for many US business owners: Retail outlets are wrestling first-hand with increasingly liberalized US gun laws, such as the permit-less constitutional carry law that became law this month in Maine.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; banglist; election2016; newyork; trump
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The article carries a link to an Reuters article attempt to characterize Trumps gun carry policies as contradictory and misleading but in the end it looks like their pursuit of additional information from Trump properties ended with a 'none of your damn business' sentiment
1 posted on 10/31/2015 5:41:18 PM PDT by SteveinSATX
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I think it's fine if businesses say "No guns". They may lose business, but property owners have rights -- and if they want to say "No guns" then it's "No guns".

But the government shouldn't say "No guns" at schools or public areas. The government should not infringe.

2 posted on 10/31/2015 5:44:37 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Speak TRUZ to power / Tell the TRUZ / No more lies; we want the TRUZ.)
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To: SteveinSATX
Mr. Trump himself, by his own admission, only carries a firearm occasionally

Trump pays people to do it for him and he now has an SS detail assigned to him.

3 posted on 10/31/2015 5:47:33 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: SteveinSATX
Do not neglect the role of lawyers in all this. I suspect that many “gun-free” establishments are that way because their lawyers have recommended it.
4 posted on 10/31/2015 5:48:17 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

Their lawyers and their insurance companies.


5 posted on 10/31/2015 5:51:08 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: SteveinSATX

I think Mr. Trump has armed escorts most of the time and with his schedule would he carry to every meeting/event?


6 posted on 10/31/2015 5:52:55 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Here in Ohio, if a property owner posts a sign that says “no guns” and you get caught carrying anyways, it’s a misdemeanor and your permit is in danger. In virginia, ignoring such a sign carries no legal penalty but if the property asks you to leave and you decline to comply, than you are in trouble. I think Virginia’s law is more reasonable and should become the model. If nobody sees it, it isn’t a problem so FU and your sign. That’s my opinion on signage.


7 posted on 10/31/2015 6:02:43 PM PDT by RC one (....and subject to the jurisdiction thereof)
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To: SteveinSATX

The article is a crock. I open carry a handgun frequently, it isn’t a problem. No one really cares except some hyperventilating journolists.

The issue in Texas was organized protests involving open carry of rifles since the horrible carry laws in Texas at the time prohibited open carry of handguns, even for permitholders. Texas carry laws still suck mightily, but they were changed recently so you can open carry a handgun with a permit. So, the rifle carry isn’t so much an issue as the underlying reason for the protests was corrected.

Contrary to what this journolist asserts, open or concealed carry is not an issue with businesses unless they choose to make it one. Open carry is still relatively unusual (I’m sad to say) and concealed carry is by its nature not seen. So unless the business management or ownership is hoplophobic or is under political pressure from the grabbers, it just isn’t on their radar.


8 posted on 10/31/2015 6:02:51 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is self-abuse - without the pleasure.)
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To: SteveinSATX
Well, that settles it for me.

I'll never ever stay in one of Donald Trumps hotels.

9 posted on 10/31/2015 6:03:25 PM PDT by ASA Vet (PMOS - 98C40K3, SMOS - 96B40, AMOS - 32G)
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To: RC one

I agree with your comment.


10 posted on 10/31/2015 6:04:50 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Speak TRUZ to power / Tell the TRUZ / No more lies; we want the TRUZ.)
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To: ASA Vet

Well, bye.
We’ll turn the light off for ya.


11 posted on 10/31/2015 6:07:01 PM PDT by sparklite2 (All will become clear when it is too late to matter.)
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To: EXCH54FE

Not only lawyers and insurance companies but the U.S. government in the guise of OSHA safety rules recommends businesses have “no weapons” policies.obama would like OSHA to ban guns in the workplace.

type osha and guns into any search engine


12 posted on 10/31/2015 6:08:11 PM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: SteveinSATX
constitutional carry is the law of the whole United states, different localities follow it or not as they please.
13 posted on 10/31/2015 6:11:17 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think it’s fine if businesses say “No guns”. They may lose business, but property owners have rights — and if they want to say “No guns” then it’s “No guns”.

But the government shouldn’t say “No guns” at schools or public areas. The government should not infringe.


Why do you have to post that? Why are you forced to point out something that should be so blazingly obvious that it need not ever be said?

Because the media propaganda has won and even the most simple logic faces a tremendous uphill battle.


14 posted on 10/31/2015 6:14:21 PM PDT by samtheman (I will build a great, great wall on our southern border... - DT)
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To: SteveinSATX
the permit-less constitutional carry law that became law this month in Maine.

Maine is also one of only two states which allow incarcerated felons to vote via absentee ballot, from their prison cells. Seems Maine gets constitutional carry right anyway.

(Vermont is the other state - felons voting while imprisoned.)

15 posted on 10/31/2015 6:15:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Bill and Hillary Clinton are the penicillin-resistant syphilis of our political system.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s right. Private property needs to be respected, but it shouldn’t be a crime to conceal carry. Guests should be warned and then evicted if not. Otherwise it is trespassing.


16 posted on 10/31/2015 6:19:09 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: RC one

Those signs are hard to see I know I sometimes walk right by one without realizing it ....


17 posted on 10/31/2015 6:19:24 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ASA Vet

Well in the debate he said he would change the policy to allow guns carried in his properties. I wonder if anyone will check if he will follow through.


18 posted on 10/31/2015 6:21:58 PM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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I wonder if anyone will check

Of course the anti Trumps will check, but you'll hear nothing about it if he did in deed make the change. That wouldn't fit their agenda.

19 posted on 10/31/2015 6:24:50 PM PDT by ASA Vet (PMOS - 98C40K3, SMOS - 96B40, AMOS - 32G)
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To: SteveinSATX

I’m sure his places have more and BETTER security than Obama does.


20 posted on 10/31/2015 6:29:23 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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