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The plinker went to war: The IDF's Ruger 10/22 (Palestinian Terrorist Plinker)
Rugertalk.com ^ | September 27, 2015 | Christopher Eger

Posted on 10/19/2015 9:38:32 AM PDT by Perseverando

Ever since their beginnings in 1948, the Israeli Defense Force has had to think outside the box to come up with weapon's systems, therefore it shouldn't surprise you that for the past 20 years the Israelis have used a (much-modified) 10/22 for use in both special operations and in security operations.


(A gently modded 10/22 with IDF forces in 2000)

The background

Going back to 1987, the IDF purchased a quantity of Ruger 10/22s for use by security forces in the Palestinian Intifada, a violent uprising in the West Bank and Gaza Strip that led to a number of deaths on both sides. Hallmarked by rock throwing, molotov cocktails, and slingshots by the Palestinians (backed by the PLO, Fatah, the Popular Front, the Democratic Front and the Palestine Communist Party), no less than 60 Israeli military and police were killed by 1993.

This led the Israelis to go a bit harder from rubber bullets and tear gas-- the traditional less-lethal tools of the age, and use .22LR rifle fire aimed at the legs of armed intifada participants, as a next step. It seems it's hard to keep your motivation to throw rocks with a 40-grain round in your shin.

The guns used by the IDF at the time were standard wooden-stocked 10/22s modified by the Italian firm of Sabatti with a heavy bull barrel encased by an integral suppressor that looks all the world like a 6 D-Cell Maglite. Drilled and tapped for a full-sized Weaver base, the gun was given a 4x optic of various manufacture and a Harris-style adjustable bipod forward.


(Use of the 10/22 always seems to be in conjunction with other soldiers armed with M16, Tavor or Galil rifles)

It's not known just how many of these guns the Israelis picked up, but they have been widely seen in the West Bank and Gaza for the past two decades.

Their use, however, was controversial an in 2001 they were ordered restricted from use as a "less lethal" weapon.


(AP Photo)

"The mistake was that the Ruger came to be seen as a means of dispersing demonstrations, in contrast to its original purpose as a weapon in every respect," said a senior IDF officer at the time. "The ballistics of the bullet are different from those of regular bullets, and as a result, it is liable to cause excessive damage when used indiscriminately."

Then in 2008, the guns were brought back online and have been used extensively since then with a different set of rules of engagement that restrict the use of them in circumstances where lethal force is authorized.


An Israeli border guard aims his 10/22 during clashes with Palestinian protesters following an anti-Israeli protest after the weekly Friday prayers on September 18, 2015 in the Israeli-controlled area called H2, in the West Bank town of Hebron. Note the BX-25, well-worn stock and receiver, and improvised cheek pad. Image by Hazem Bader/AFP


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1022; 22lr; banglist; idf; plinker; ruger
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I bought it as a vendor special here in Georgia they arranged with Ruger. The stock and the 10/22 were mated together and at a pretty good price. I added the Leupold and the suppressor, but this gun had a birdcage flash hider already built in (like an AR-15) and threads that matched the suppressor I’m already licensed for.


21 posted on 10/19/2015 10:12:02 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: WayneS

You can buy an aftermarket fix for that, but it requires taking it apart to install.


22 posted on 10/19/2015 10:13:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Perseverando

You could really put an eye out with one of those!

Need to be careful you might hurt someone. A .22 goes into the skull and just rattles around in there making mush.

I can see how having 40 grains of led in your leg might make you less enthusiastic about throwing rocks or molotovs.


23 posted on 10/19/2015 10:14:21 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: IMR 4350

My suppressor cuts the noise down on a loud 22LR to the level of what I get out of an Aguila primer-only load I practice with in my S&W revolver. It’s not silent by any means.

Now the ones in the pictures in the OP are probably a lot quieter because they’re integrated with the barrel and probably have a lot more baffles.


24 posted on 10/19/2015 10:15:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: IMR 4350

Conan! What is best in life?


25 posted on 10/19/2015 10:15:39 AM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: Perseverando

Now I know where all the .22 LR has been going! (They still have everyday at Cabalas though!!!)


26 posted on 10/19/2015 10:18:21 AM PDT by TheCause ("that these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States")
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To: Perseverando

If you shoot at someone, shoot to kill them.

This won’t appease anyone and will only make for experienced insurrectionists.


27 posted on 10/19/2015 10:24:25 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (ObamaCons: the deformed and venomous issue of intimacies between Obama and NeoCons.)
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To: TexasTransplant

“**** “I wonder if I can get one of those barrels for mine” ****

Me Too”

Why bother? You will only lose it on a fishing trip.


28 posted on 10/19/2015 10:24:40 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Jews For Cruz)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

With all these tragic boating accidents, you would think someone would recognize an opportunity. well, I’m that guy.

Tomorrow I’m heading over the patent office to register Automated Tactical Pontoon Deployment, also known as ATPD (acronyms are big part of my marketing strategy). Should your firearm enter water, tactical pontoons (repeated use of the word ‘tactical’ also part of my strategy) will automatically deploy from either side of the rifle. Not only protecting the firearm from being submerged, but also creating a tactical, if not ultra-tactical firing cradle suitable for long range sniper use while treading water from your recently submerged fishing boat. I plan on offering a slightly more expensive version in mega-ultra-tactical that has a rail to hold a flashlight, compass, grenade launcher, margarita blender.


29 posted on 10/19/2015 10:51:19 AM PDT by Made In The USA (Rap music: Soundtrack of the retarded.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Good point!


30 posted on 10/19/2015 10:59:59 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Made In The USA
I plan on offering a slightly more expensive version in mega-ultra-tactical that has a rail to hold a flashlight, compass, grenade launcher, margarita blender.

What? No pasta maker?

pfft...

31 posted on 10/19/2015 11:32:01 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: NorthMountain

I have used a 10/22 and a Charger version of it to take out a slew of destructive beaver and racoons at my place. Reasonably accurate and does the job.


32 posted on 10/19/2015 11:36:11 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Resolute Conservative

Would this stop blacklivesmatter rioters?


33 posted on 10/19/2015 11:38:10 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: bert

I used to be a rock throwing protester, but then I took a 22 to the knee.


34 posted on 10/19/2015 11:43:56 AM PDT by CoasterCat
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To: Darksheare

Didn’t you say you lost yours in a boating accident?


35 posted on 10/19/2015 12:05:23 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Disambiguator

Silent integrally suppressed Ruger 10/22 22lr - Episode #10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NvrpNwtzkw

Ruger 10-22 w/ Integrally Suppressed Short Barrel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj1LljLNU90

10/22 Integrally Suppressed Barrels
http://yhm.net/10-22-integrally-suppressed-barrels-1421.html

cheapest integrally suppressed 10/22 barrel?
https://www.ar15.com/archive/topic.html?b=6&f=11&t=304544


36 posted on 10/19/2015 12:07:13 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: NoCmpromiz

It suffered aggressive predation by an overly active and immense catfish on the local pond.
I barely escaped with my life.


37 posted on 10/19/2015 12:07:55 PM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: Darksheare
an overly active and immense catfish on the local pond.

So THAT'S what happened to the goldfish..

38 posted on 10/19/2015 12:15:50 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Psalm 144

Not so. The injured jihadi requires several more to transport and care for him. Even this scumballs do not leave their injured in the street.


39 posted on 10/19/2015 12:35:26 PM PDT by anton
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To: Perseverando
"The ballistics of the bullet are different from those of regular bullets, and as a result, it is liable to cause excessive damage when used indiscriminately."

Who care about the excessive damage, as long as it kills the terrorist rat-b@$t@rd?

40 posted on 10/19/2015 12:42:08 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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