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Raw Jobs Numbers the Press Won't Disclose Paint an Even Uglier Picture Than Currently Reported
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| 10/4/2015
| Tom Blumer
Posted on 10/04/2015 7:50:22 AM PDT by rktman
In their coverage of government and other economic reports, the business press routinely tells readers that the figures they are relaying are "seasonally adjusted." That is, raw results are smoothed out to supposedly "remove normal, recurring variations" in data.
There's one notable exception: The government's monthly employment report.
As has been their habit for as long as I have been following these things, various Associated Press reports in the past several days (examples here, here and here) and at yesterday's New York Times failed to tag yesterday's reported gain in payroll jobs of 142,000 as "seasonally adjusted." There appears to be no reason for this other than to discourage curiosity among those who might otherwise be inclined to dig deeper. Doing so sometimes reveals that the seasonally adjusted figures understate the job market's strength. Other times, they appear to overstate it. As seen after the jump, especially in the private sector, the poor seasonally adjusted results of the past two months are nowhere near as bad as the underlying raw data:
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; election2016; joblessclaims; newyork; trump; unemployed
1. The press would NEVER lie to us.
2. "There isn't a single segment of the economy that isn't better off than when I took office." lyin' king, Milwaukee speech(lecture).
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posted on
10/04/2015 7:50:22 AM PDT
by
rktman
To: rktman
I work hard so those on welfare won’t have to.
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posted on
10/04/2015 7:51:57 AM PDT
by
SkyDancer
("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
To: SkyDancer
Watch how the unemployment rate skyrockets when a Republican becomes President in Jan 2017.
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posted on
10/04/2015 8:03:24 AM PDT
by
mosaicwolf
(Strength and Honor)
To: rktman
Seasonal Adjustments should always equal 100% over the preceding 12 months.
I would like to know the source so that I compare the raw and the adjusted of the last 12 months to see if this is just a bald faced lie.
I think these guys are preying on the ignorance of the population, but the population isn’t believing the numbers because they are feeling the state of the economy personally.
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posted on
10/04/2015 8:05:55 AM PDT
by
dila813
To: rktman
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posted on
10/04/2015 8:35:01 AM PDT
by
Iron Munro
(Proverbs 21:20 - The wise have stores of food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has))
To: mosaicwolf
Like when Reagan was elected.
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posted on
10/04/2015 8:39:13 AM PDT
by
SkyDancer
("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
To: rktman
,,,,, only the totally uninformed believe the U/E rate is 5% ,,, with 94 million folks permanently out of work this %5 is based solely on the existing reduced workforce . A trick used by the commie dictator .
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posted on
10/04/2015 9:09:28 AM PDT
by
Lionheartusa1
()-: ISIS is Islam without the lipstick :-()
To: SkyDancer
And, they don’t even appreciate that, SkyDancer. They just clamor for more, more, more.
We are careening toward a significant and serious day of reckoning. I pray there are enough knowledgeable, patriotic Americans left so we can put this right.
Three days after the EBT cards stop working, all bets are off...
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posted on
10/04/2015 9:15:21 AM PDT
by
PubliusMM
(RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2017; I pray we make it that long.)
To: Lionheartusa1
Trick?
No trick.
They have actually lied straight faced about the numbers, and everyone knows it. If you ask them about it, they don’t know anything and what difference does it make, donchaknow?
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posted on
10/04/2015 9:15:48 AM PDT
by
FreedomStar3028
(Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
To: PubliusMM
When massive portions of society run out of food and clean water it’s insane how fast civilized people do the most deranged things to stay alive.
If you don’t have defenses, extra food, water, and a plan you better get one. I have a feeling the curtain comes down when the next President takes the helm.
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posted on
10/04/2015 9:18:46 AM PDT
by
FreedomStar3028
(Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
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posted on
10/04/2015 11:28:51 AM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
To: SunkenCiv
So, I just finished reading every comment on every post you linked to and I’m still not sure what your point is.
/s
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posted on
10/04/2015 11:36:00 AM PDT
by
Zeneta
(Thoughts in time and out of season.)
To: rktman
Everything seems odd to me. It seems like the economy is fine where I am at. People are happy. Prices are going up. Product sizes are getting smaller. Housing costs are going up. Starbucks seems to do good business. It is hard to get a job. Nobody complains.
Maybe they are living on credit. Maybe welfare. Maybe they live with multiple people to a dwelling unit.
Maybe people are in denial.
I have to cutback to save money and survive.
To: Zeneta
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posted on
10/04/2015 12:12:47 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
To: SunkenCiv
Dancing Monkey Don't Never Get To Be Kong
Joe Cartoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqCUJ_HbVzA
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posted on
10/04/2015 12:23:55 PM PDT
by
Zeneta
(Thoughts in time and out of season.)
To: Zeneta
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posted on
10/04/2015 12:24:20 PM PDT
by
Zeneta
(Thoughts in time and out of season.)
To: moviefan8
“I have to cutback to save money and survive.” That’s a sure sign of a robust economy.
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posted on
10/04/2015 12:39:51 PM PDT
by
rktman
(Enlisted in the Navy to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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