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A Protestant Response To Pope Francis' Address
Virtue Online ^ | September 24, 2015 | Phillip Melancthon

Posted on 09/26/2015 8:01:14 AM PDT by lqcincinnatus

1] The Roman Pontiff claims for himself [in the first place] that by divine right he is [supreme] above all bishops and pastors [in all Christendom].

2] Secondly, he adds also that by divine right he has both swords, i.e., the authority also of bestowing kingdoms [enthroning and deposing kings, regulating secular dominions etc.].

3] And thirdly, he says that to believe this is necessary for salvation. And for these reasons the Roman bishop calls himself [and boasts that he is] the vicar of Christ on earth.

4] These three articles we hold to be false, godless, tyrannical, and [quite] pernicious to the Church.

5] Now, in order that our proof [reason and opinion] may be [better] understood, we shall first define what they call being above all [what it means that he boasts of being supreme] by divine right. For they mean that he is universal [that the Pope is the general bishop over the entire Christian Church], or, as they say, ecumenical bishop, i.e., from whom all bishops and pastors throughout the entire world ought to seek ordination and [confirmation, who [alone] is to have the right of electing, ordaining, confirming, deposing all bishops [and pastors].

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To: MARKUSPRIME

PING to #60


61 posted on 09/26/2015 10:39:49 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: MARKUSPRIME
I dont call my self a protestant but a Baptist which was in the bible.

Yes. Not only is that true, but the first prototype church at Jerusalem for modeling by all was baptist, as were all the first independent local immersionist fundamental assemblies as planted by the apostles, and recorded in the New Testament. Conversion of many to state-owned churches came much later, after the influences of the apostles diminished and were supplanted by Gentiles clinging to their Platonism, applying its principles to the religion, and displacing the gospel of salvation by faith alone in Jesus Christ alone, and transmitted by the Holy Spirit-breathed Scriptures alone.

62 posted on 09/26/2015 10:43:26 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

It couldn’t be more clear. Like the Pauli principle: mutual exclusion. They wouldn’t give up nor modify their Romanism. I’m presuming Scotland?


63 posted on 09/26/2015 10:50:59 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: Tennessee Nana

Who is “we?” You named a bunch of assemblies, but not the one that is generally accepted to have coined the term “Roman” Catholic; that being the Anglican church...And my general impression of you folks in that you don’t like Anglicans much either.


64 posted on 09/26/2015 10:56:35 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Did your general impression also admit to you that I am a christened and confirmed Anglican ???


65 posted on 09/26/2015 11:11:50 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

You might want to keep that under your hat. Your side more frequently lumps Anglicans in with Catholics than accepts them as fellow manifestants.


66 posted on 09/26/2015 11:16:52 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: lqcincinnatus

How many divisions does the Pope of Rome have? —STALIN


67 posted on 09/26/2015 11:17:52 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I’m on the side of the LORD Jesus Christ..

whose side are you on ???


68 posted on 09/26/2015 11:20:56 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Actually it was at my Anglican Church that I learnt how different the Roman Catholic beliefs were to the truth of the Bible..


69 posted on 09/26/2015 11:23:23 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

What in the H-E-double hockey sticks are you TALKING about?!! What’s your point?!!!


70 posted on 09/26/2015 11:25:55 AM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Ah, I see now you are one of those bas-Église types, not an actual Anglican.
71 posted on 09/26/2015 11:34:05 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Thank-you and God Bless.


72 posted on 09/26/2015 11:52:37 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Clintonfatigued

At this present time when this nation is in trouble, this is the LAST thing this forum and society needs.


73 posted on 09/26/2015 11:55:44 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

No kid it was when the word catholic in the Apostles Creed was being explained to me..why we were part of the catholic (universal) church but not the ROMAN catholic church as the ROMAN catholic church was something else different and alien to the words of the LORD Jesus Christ and directions of the Bible to the universal Church of Christ..in other words he Roman catholic church is pagan...

The Apostles Creed

I believe in God the Father Almighty,
Maker of Heaven and Earth:

And in Jesus Christ His only Son our Lord,
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
Born of the Virgin Mary,
Suffered under Pontius Pilate,
Was crucified, dead, and buried:
He descended into Hell;
The third day He rose again from the dead;
He ascended into Heaven,
And sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
From thence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Ghost;
The Holy Catholic Church;
The Communion of Saints;
The Forgiveness of sins;
The Resurrection of the body,
And the Life everlasting.
Amen.


74 posted on 09/26/2015 11:57:41 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

oh and as Protestant..I believe in TULIP..

but I repeat myself..


75 posted on 09/26/2015 11:59:35 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Glad2bnuts
If God himself said every 50 years debt should be erased, and land returned, who am I to disagree?

Um... God said that all debts were to be erased every SEVEN (7) years.

Deuteronomy 15:1 At the end of every seven years thou shalt make a release. 2 And this is the manner of the release: Every creditor that lendeth ought unto his neighbour shall release it; he shall not exact it of his neighbour, or of his brother; because it is called the Lord's release. 3 Of a foreigner thou mayest exact it again: but that which is thine with thy brother thine hand shall release;
76 posted on 09/26/2015 12:01:22 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: Tennessee Nana
.in other words he Roman catholic church is pagan...

OK. Then which church should we take our disagreements to, as Jesus instructed us? If not the (one) church that Christ founded, which one?

And if no such doctrinal authority exists, Christ's words would be void and meaningless, which is an impossibility, since He is God.

If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

77 posted on 09/26/2015 12:02:30 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: lqcincinnatus

Whenever the topic turns to Catholicism, I am amazed at the depth and scope of bigotry and the abundance of ignorance on Free Republic.

No wonder that the secularists are in ascendance in America, when one sees the “Christians” spewing their hatred on these pages.


78 posted on 09/26/2015 12:06:21 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Well it seems like our disagreements over global warming has been decided by the Roman Catholic pope...

of course the LORD Jesus Christ didn’t found the global warming heresy..

but then neither did He found the Roman Catholic Church...


79 posted on 09/26/2015 12:08:39 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Because TDUELAIGPOTS doesn’t sound quite as pithy?


80 posted on 09/26/2015 12:08:53 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Exsurge, Domine, et judica causam tuam)
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