No kid it was when the word catholic in the Apostles Creed was being explained to me..why we were part of the catholic (universal) church but not the ROMAN catholic church as the ROMAN catholic church was something else different and alien to the words of the LORD Jesus Christ and directions of the Bible to the universal Church of Christ..in other words he Roman catholic church is pagan...
The Apostles Creed
I believe in God the Father Almighty,
Maker of Heaven and Earth:
And in Jesus Christ His only Son our Lord,
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
Born of the Virgin Mary,
Suffered under Pontius Pilate,
Was crucified, dead, and buried:
He descended into Hell;
The third day He rose again from the dead;
He ascended into Heaven,
And sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
From thence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost;
The Holy Catholic Church;
The Communion of Saints;
The Forgiveness of sins;
The Resurrection of the body,
And the Life everlasting.
Amen.
OK. Then which church should we take our disagreements to, as Jesus instructed us? If not the (one) church that Christ founded, which one?
And if no such doctrinal authority exists, Christ's words would be void and meaningless, which is an impossibility, since He is God.
If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.
My, that's a trifle condescending -- unless of course, you are referring to my irresistible boyish charm?