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The Return of Term Limits
National Review ^ | September 20, 2015

Posted on 09/21/2015 3:53:22 AM PDT by nuconvert

A Gallup poll released last Friday found that a full 75 percent of Americans believe that corruption in government is widespread. That’s up by nine percentage points since 2009, when only 66 percent felt that way.

So it’s no surprise that a populist revolt is in full swing. Bernie Sanders, a socialist who rails against government ties with Wall Street, is leading front-runner Hillary Clinton in Iowa and New Hampshire. Three Republicans who have never held office — Donald Trump, Carly Fiorina, and Ben Carson — are way ahead of veteran GOP governors and senators in the race for the GOP nomination.

A recurring theme in the campaigns of several Republicans this year is support for term limits. Donald Trump characteristically won’t address the issue, telling CBS’s Face the Nation: “The biggest reform is to get competent people in office. I mean that’s to me the biggest reform we could make.” But Carly Fiorina and Ben Carson have made support for term limits part of their platforms. Carson said: “We must encourage innovation and ingenuity to improve the state of our nation. Term limits create more opportunities for fresh ideas.” Carson, along with fellow GOP candidates Mike Huckabee, Rand Paul, and Ted Cruz, go beyond calling for term limits on Congress: They propose extending them to Supreme Court justices as well.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; US: Arkansas; US: California; US: Iowa; US: Kentucky; US: New Hampshire; US: New York; US: Texas; US: Vermont
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To: b4its2late

If we can’t do anything else, I want to see these bastards be forced to live with CommieCare in exactly the same way the rest of the taxpayers do.


21 posted on 09/21/2015 5:34:14 AM PDT by mrsmel (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nuconvert

Term Limits;

One Term in Office,

TWO Terms in Jail!!


22 posted on 09/21/2015 5:38:22 AM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: nuconvert

Just slow down on electing lawyers, that would help.


23 posted on 09/21/2015 5:42:23 AM PDT by FrankR
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To: bestintxas

1) Are we not a nation Equal under the Law? (on paper, yes). Much like the rest of the Constitution, if one is not following/adhering...what matters another Law to disregard?

2) Completely agree. No donations of time, $$, property, etc. from ANY entity that cannot pull the lever at voting time.

3) See #1

4) See #1

5) See #1. Remove ALL perks, pensions, etc. (aside from their ‘pay’). Nobody in D.C. should get PERMANENT/LIFETIME monies from the Treasury for the work of the Nation they (may) do; it should be a privledge and/or taxing to give ones life/time for D.C., not the other way around.

I would add 6) Some kind of 5-10yr. window where D.C. cannot go from office to lobby/k-st/think-tank to again meddle with the our Freedoms and Liberty.


24 posted on 09/21/2015 6:03:58 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: Bobby_Taxpayer; All

The root issue, IMO, is voter apathy.

Much like parents re: their children: MY child (Rep., Senator, dog-catcher, etc.) is GREAT/an angel...but YOURS sucks.

How else does one attribute 95%+ re-election rate??


25 posted on 09/21/2015 6:11:56 AM PDT by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: nuconvert

For Cantor that would mean another 20 years. We needed to remove him last year before he betrayed us on amnesty.


26 posted on 09/21/2015 6:36:28 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

How could it be 20 yrs if there were term limits? There needs to be both: term limits, age limit


27 posted on 09/21/2015 6:37:55 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: quantim

“Vote them out instead “

Why instead and not both?


28 posted on 09/21/2015 6:39:35 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: McGavin999

Term limits have not solved the problem in California.

I used to think they were a solution. I do not anymore.

We need more effective ways of limiting government power.


29 posted on 09/21/2015 7:14:09 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: nuconvert

If term limits are enacted power will default to the staffers and bureaucrats who work for the elected officials unless something is done about that too.


30 posted on 09/21/2015 7:17:02 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: KrisKrinkle

“If term limits are enacted power will default to the staffers and bureaucrats who work for the elected officials “

Why would that happen?


31 posted on 09/21/2015 7:46:34 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Donald Trump characteristically won't address the issue, telling CBS's Face the Nation: "The biggest reform is to get competent people in office. I mean that's to me the biggest reform we could make."
IOW, Trump nails it. Newt pretended to support term limits with the Contract with America, but characteristically, he didn't deliver.


32 posted on 09/21/2015 8:23:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: nuconvert

If it backfires it will be because people come to Washington realizing “I only have eight years to stuff my pockets, so let’s start maximizing all efforts in that regard.”


33 posted on 09/21/2015 8:30:30 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: mrsmel

Yes, agreed. That too.


34 posted on 09/21/2015 8:54:45 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: nuconvert
A Gallup poll released last Friday found that a full 75 percent of Americans believe that corruption in government is widespread.

What's sad is that there's 25% who don't believe it.

35 posted on 09/21/2015 8:56:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Lurkinanloomin

If voters were always wise, and never voted against their own interests or the country’s interests, then you would be correct. The framers understood that you couldn’t and shouldn’t rely on people to always be virtuous or wise, otherwise, why even bother to have divided government in the first place? The three branches of government were just an attempt to limit the consolidation of power and to provide checks and balances to overreach. Term limits was a check on power that they overlooked.


36 posted on 09/21/2015 11:16:22 AM PDT by mbrfl (fightingmad)
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To: nuconvert
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37 posted on 09/21/2015 11:19:53 AM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Eccl 10:2
I have two words for anyone who thinks term limits are going to have any effect on the political, economic, and social climate in this country:

1. Bush

2. Clinton

The office of the President of the United States is the only one that is subject to term limits under the U.S. Constitution. Here we are in 2015, in a nation of more than 300 million people, and the political powers and their media propagandists have come up with two @ssholes from these two families as the frontrunners in next year's election campaign.

I rest my case.

38 posted on 09/21/2015 12:28:26 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: nuconvert

“Why would that happen?”

Briefly:

Each Congress critter and each Congressional Committee has a staff to help do the job. They will be the ones who know how to get things done as opposed to a newly elected person.

The newly elected will want people who know how the system works, how to get things done within the system, so will hire experienced people, either those who worked for a predecessor or those who worked for someone else. These people will have influence, for good or bad, with the elected.

A staffer may have, say 20 years experience compared to the 0 of the newly elected. The newly elected will depend on these people till they figure out which way is up and by that time they may have hit the term limit. Of course that will be less of a problem in the Senate than in the House.

I believe that in the nature of things, overtime, power will accrue to the experienced people, that is to the staffers, unless they are term limited too.


39 posted on 09/22/2015 7:46:32 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: nuconvert

Term limits are NO MAGIC BULLIT. The corruption will just happen faster. We have presidential term limits, how is that working?

Your age limit would have kept RR out...........................

So tell me, what is the real problem and can it be solved.


40 posted on 09/22/2015 11:15:37 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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