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Fiorina, Levin at odds over Kentucky clerk refusing to issue gay marriage licenses
http://www.bizpacreview.com ^ | September 2, 2015 | Carmine Sabia

Posted on 09/02/2015 9:42:55 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina has sided against a Kentucky county clerk who has refused to issue marriage licenses for gay couples and received immediate pushback from conservative radio host Mark Levin.

Appearing on the Hugh Hewitt show, Fiorina said that even though she disagrees with the Supreme Court’s ruling on same sex marriage, as a paid government employee the Rowan County clerk, Kim Davis — coincidentally an elected Democrat, must “execute the government’s will.”

“I think in this particular case this woman now needs to make a decision of conscience. Is she prepared to continue to work for the government, be paid for by the government?” Fiorina asked. “Or does she feel so strongly about this that she wants to sever her employment with the government and go seek employment elsewhere?”

Levin argued that Fiorina and conservatives should rally around Davis and condemn the Supreme Court’s activist decision like Democrats do when a decision goes against them.

“If she were of the left and it was a different circumstance they’d be rallying around her and so would the media,” Levin said.

“If the clerk were told you cannot issue a marriage certificate if there are different races,” he asked, would she “be told ‘do your job or quit?’”

Listen to both clips below and tell us who you agree with.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: California; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2016election; arkansas; california; carlyfiorina; civildisobedience; election2016; gaykkk; homosexualagenda; kentucky; kimdavis; libertarians; marklevin; medicalmarijuana; mikehuckabee
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"As a paid government employee the clerk must “execute the government’s will.” ~ Carly Fiorina

"That clerk is not going to issue the license,.."The Supreme Court is not her Supreme Being, it's not God to her..." ~ Mark Levin

1 posted on 09/02/2015 9:42:55 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

Carly, this is Charlie. Guess what? I refuse to vote for you now. The clerk is following the law of Kentucky, which prohibits marriage between members of the same sex.


2 posted on 09/02/2015 9:46:00 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: NKP_Vet

She’s not “refusing to issue gay marriage licenses”; she’s refusing to issue ANY marriage licenses to anyone, gay or straight. You just don’t get a government-sanctioned marriage in Rowan County.

If the Extreme Court is going to force so-called “marriage equality” on the country, then this is precisely where we need to go — get the government out of marriage altogether.


3 posted on 09/02/2015 9:47:24 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: NKP_Vet

According to Fiorina, if a German soldier had refused orders to kill Jews, they should be punished. After all, killing Jews was the law of the land.


4 posted on 09/02/2015 9:48:05 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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To: NKP_Vet

If Zero and Billary don’t have to follow the Law then the Clerk has the right to follow what ever law she wants to.


5 posted on 09/02/2015 9:49:48 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: NKP_Vet

Not hard to see how Fiorina buried two multi billion dollar companies, is it ?


6 posted on 09/02/2015 9:51:47 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: NKP_Vet

She is not an employee she is an elected official.


7 posted on 09/02/2015 9:55:48 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: TBP

“She’s not ‘refusing to issue gay marriage licenses; she’s refusing to issue ANY marriage licenses to anyone, gay or straight. You just don’t get a government-sanctioned marriage in Rowan County.”

But issuing marriage licenses is one of the duties of a County Clerk, as determined by the State of Kentucky. It’s not up to her to decide she’s just not going to do a portion of her job.

As for the “we’re not discriminating because we’re not providing to anyone” argument - it didn’t work when southern states decided to shut down their public school systems altogether rather than desegregate, and it won’t work now.


8 posted on 09/02/2015 9:56:33 AM PDT by GIdget2004
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To: NKP_Vet

I think this entire argument is pretty much moot.

I do not see much Christian support for the defendant in this case and I would hope the case is carried as far as the money will take it, but in the end, I think we all know what is going to happen here.

Only this morning I heard a self proclaimed long term Christian conservative say that Jesus guides us in this matter and that we should render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.(paraphrased)

It appears to me that this is the majority Christian opinion even though the SCOTUS decision is seen as totally bogus and indefensible.

I would take the case as far as you can go with it, but in the end, the defendant will have a choice to make, assuming it has not been made already.

IMO, there is only one legal way to fix this, and that is the Convention of the States route.

And there is also the other way the we sometimes refer to as a active revolution. (not the passive kind)


9 posted on 09/02/2015 10:01:05 AM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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What is interesting - and I heard the Fiorina interview with Hewitt, she suggested that she might side with a private individual , she used a photographer as an example might use civil disobedience properly.

I think that this clerk should do her civil disobedience to see where it leads in the courts. This needs to be done, and that the clerk is a Dem makes it have more weight. No one can say it is an 'evil' Republican causing the fuss.
10 posted on 09/02/2015 10:01:43 AM PDT by BigEdLB (We need to target the 'Ministry of Virtue' on Iranian bombing runs. It is not vituous)
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To: GIdget2004

This is the law in Kentucky

Ky. Rev. Stat. 402.020(1)(d) Marriage between members of the same sex is prohibited and void

http://www.lrc.ky.gov/statutes/statute.aspx?id=36466


11 posted on 09/02/2015 10:02:07 AM PDT by Ray76 (When a gov't leads it's people down a path of destruction resistance is not only a right but a duty.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Thank you to Mark Levin. He’s a good man.

Carly will not get my vote.


12 posted on 09/02/2015 10:02:22 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: jpsb

She works for the people of her state who voted to define marriage as only between one man and one woman.

The court made the decision. Let them enforce it.


13 posted on 09/02/2015 10:03:53 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: jpsb

She’s also a Democrat. Levin usually does better research.


14 posted on 09/02/2015 10:04:58 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: NKP_Vet

What’s the compelling government interest for same-sex unions, Carly?


15 posted on 09/02/2015 10:06:06 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: jagusafr

So what?

Democrats fight for what they believe in.

Republicans roll over.


16 posted on 09/02/2015 10:08:37 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: GIdget2004; NKP_Vet
You really should look at NKP_Vet number 4

Re shutting down the schools (if that happened) is harming the education of the kids. Not issuing a marriage lisence is a minor inconvenience (go to a different county) which harms no one.

You do not defeat tyranny by submission, you defeat tyranny with disobedience.

The Constitution prohibits the state from imposing its' religion on us. The religion of the left is secular humanism and the left is imposing secular humanism on the nation which is clearly unconstitutional.

17 posted on 09/02/2015 10:09:54 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: jagusafr

Donald Trump is a democrat too and do you support him! So if you support Donald Trump than you are no better than doing the research of Donald’s political affliations.


18 posted on 09/02/2015 10:13:57 AM PDT by hondact200 (Donald Trump is No Ronald Reagan. Conservative, Christian, and Gun Owner since 1982)
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To: Charles Henrickson

“Carly, this is Charlie. Guess what? I refuse to vote for you now.”

she wasn’t even an option. Heck, she’s pelosi with an R’ attached..


19 posted on 09/02/2015 10:18:47 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: NKP_Vet

Pandering for that LGBT vote, eh Carly?

Regardless, I wouldn’t come up against the likes of Levin unless you’re real, real sure of what you believe, and are prepared to defend it.

Mark Levin wasn’t born yesterday.


20 posted on 09/02/2015 10:19:08 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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