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"As a paid government employee the clerk must “execute the government’s will.” ~ Carly Fiorina

"That clerk is not going to issue the license,.."The Supreme Court is not her Supreme Being, it's not God to her..." ~ Mark Levin

1 posted on 09/02/2015 9:42:55 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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Carly, this is Charlie. Guess what? I refuse to vote for you now. The clerk is following the law of Kentucky, which prohibits marriage between members of the same sex.


2 posted on 09/02/2015 9:46:00 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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She’s not “refusing to issue gay marriage licenses”; she’s refusing to issue ANY marriage licenses to anyone, gay or straight. You just don’t get a government-sanctioned marriage in Rowan County.

If the Extreme Court is going to force so-called “marriage equality” on the country, then this is precisely where we need to go — get the government out of marriage altogether.


3 posted on 09/02/2015 9:47:24 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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According to Fiorina, if a German soldier had refused orders to kill Jews, they should be punished. After all, killing Jews was the law of the land.


4 posted on 09/02/2015 9:48:05 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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If Zero and Billary don’t have to follow the Law then the Clerk has the right to follow what ever law she wants to.


5 posted on 09/02/2015 9:49:48 AM PDT by tallyhoe
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Not hard to see how Fiorina buried two multi billion dollar companies, is it ?


6 posted on 09/02/2015 9:51:47 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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She is not an employee she is an elected official.


7 posted on 09/02/2015 9:55:48 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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I think this entire argument is pretty much moot.

I do not see much Christian support for the defendant in this case and I would hope the case is carried as far as the money will take it, but in the end, I think we all know what is going to happen here.

Only this morning I heard a self proclaimed long term Christian conservative say that Jesus guides us in this matter and that we should render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s.(paraphrased)

It appears to me that this is the majority Christian opinion even though the SCOTUS decision is seen as totally bogus and indefensible.

I would take the case as far as you can go with it, but in the end, the defendant will have a choice to make, assuming it has not been made already.

IMO, there is only one legal way to fix this, and that is the Convention of the States route.

And there is also the other way the we sometimes refer to as a active revolution. (not the passive kind)


9 posted on 09/02/2015 10:01:05 AM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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What is interesting - and I heard the Fiorina interview with Hewitt, she suggested that she might side with a private individual , she used a photographer as an example might use civil disobedience properly.

I think that this clerk should do her civil disobedience to see where it leads in the courts. This needs to be done, and that the clerk is a Dem makes it have more weight. No one can say it is an 'evil' Republican causing the fuss.
10 posted on 09/02/2015 10:01:43 AM PDT by BigEdLB (We need to target the 'Ministry of Virtue' on Iranian bombing runs. It is not vituous)
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Thank you to Mark Levin. He’s a good man.

Carly will not get my vote.


12 posted on 09/02/2015 10:02:22 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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What’s the compelling government interest for same-sex unions, Carly?


15 posted on 09/02/2015 10:06:06 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Pandering for that LGBT vote, eh Carly?

Regardless, I wouldn’t come up against the likes of Levin unless you’re real, real sure of what you believe, and are prepared to defend it.

Mark Levin wasn’t born yesterday.


20 posted on 09/02/2015 10:19:08 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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Hope some FR looks up Rowand county KY and county offices because it sounds like a lightly populated rural area. I can’t do it because of technical ptoblems. But her job according to the report I heard is unpaid and a honorary position which makes me wonder if her title is something other than what she’s being reported as; County Clerk.


27 posted on 09/02/2015 10:50:50 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's because of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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Saw Father Morris on FNC this morning after they showed a video of various "gay couples" demanding they be granted "marriage" licenses, whereupon the clerk and another guy there in the office refused.

After declaring she would not issue the couples licenses at one point, a guy screamed at her "she didn't work for God, she worked for the government," Martha McCallum asked Father Morris his thinking on the matter.

He responded that Kim Davis either needed to "follow the Supreme Court decision or quit her job."

I'll admit, I was astounded at his immediate statement, that he has thought this through and come to that conclusion.

I fear he and others really have NOT thought this out because at the end of the day, these activists are also going to go to his church and demand that he (or others presuming he has no real parish but is a media person) perform the ceremony - that "as fellow Catholics, they are entitled to have the ceremony performed by their church!"

That's where this is headed much quicker than the good Father has imagined. I'm just amazed that those speakers of the Church, they've not considered that possibility - that they also are no longer allowed to put God before the laws of man, according to the Left and their abetters.

The Left is headed to demanding that religion only rules inside recognized buildings - not anywhere else in society.

The First Amendment protects "them (the Left) from religious thought or actions."

28 posted on 09/02/2015 10:58:30 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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”… must “execute the government’s will.”"

I think that Ms Fiorina means the government’s constitutionally limited will.

I’m sure that Ms Davis, an elected official, swore to protect and defend the Constitution after she was elected.

But undoubtedly like many elected government officially, she probably needs to take some time to actually read the Constitution after swearing to protect and defend it. She would find the following in the 14th Amendment.

14th Amendment, Section 1: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States [emphasis added]; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

As a side note, consider that Acts 22:25-29 indicates that Paul saved himself from being flogged by claiming his Roman citizenship.

36 posted on 09/02/2015 12:32:52 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Supermarkets require underaged cashiers to step aside when alcoholic beverages are being purchased, an older employer scanning the beverage.

Likewise for Muslim cashiers when pork is being purchased, a non-Muslim scanning the purchase. Corrections welcome.

In the context of employers accommodating “special needs” cashiers, while I don’t support gay “marriage,” the states having never amended the Constitution to expressly protect such “marriage,” I agree in principal with Ms Florina that Ms Davis should “step aside.”

H O W E V E R …

Since Ms Davis is an elected official, I disagree with Ms Florina that Ms Davis should somehow step aside, resign or whatever. Most importantly, what do the voters who elected Ms Davis, and who have been wrongly denied their 10th Amendment-protected power to prohibit constitutionally unprotected gay “marriage” by the corrupt courts, think about this situation?


38 posted on 09/02/2015 12:58:25 PM PDT by Amendment10
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I wonder if anyone else around here heard that radio clip on FOX this morning when Carly announced that CNN said she would be in the upcoming debate.

She was on the radio with...get ready for it......Mizz McPiggy herself. Mizz McPiggy was positively ecstatic and sounded like such a freaking ditz head.

Just awful.


39 posted on 09/02/2015 1:03:37 PM PDT by dforest
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A person can agree or disagree with the clerk.

I agree with her and admire her, though I don’t know if I would be willing to do what she is doing.

But Carly is just being stupid. “Executing the will of the goverment” isn’t the answer here, it is the question!

Whether or not we should be compelled by the government to act against our own consciences is exactly what the clerk is fighting to determine...and it is also exactly what led to the founding of this nation.

If Carly wants to say “I think we should have gay marriages,” well, that’s for her to say.

If she thinks we are always to “carry out the will” of the f’ing goverment, then she is not a conservative, she is an imperialist of the Obama stripe (that would be black, white and red all over...oh and yellow too).


46 posted on 09/02/2015 1:28:12 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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