Posted on 08/31/2015 5:27:25 PM PDT by Red Steel
Immigration: When Donald Trump proposed mandatory deportation of illegal aliens, pundits and politicians on both sides of the political aisle were appalled. But on this issue it looks like Trump has the public on his side.
The fire from the right was almost as fierce as that from the left. "It's not conservative and it's not realistic and it does not embrace American values," said Jeb Bush.
Sen. Lindsey Graham called it "absolute gibberish."
Conservative commentator Charles Krauthammer called the idea "crackpot" and "morally obscene."
But the prize for overheated rhetoric goes to Hillary Clinton, who said Trump wants to "literally pull people out of their homes and their workplaces, round them up, put them, I don't know, in buses, boxcars, in order to take them across our border."
So what do these folks say about the fact that the majority of Americans back Trump on this?
The latest IBD/TIPP Poll asked 913 adults coast to coast if they "support or oppose mandatory deportation of illegal immigrants in the U.S." Not surprisingly, 87% of Trump supporters back the proposal.
What's surprising is that 59% of the overall public does as well. Mandatory deportation gets majority support in all age groups except 18-24, every income group, among both women and men, at every level of educational achievement, and in rural, urban and suburban regions.
More interesting still is the fact that 64% of independents and 55% of moderates support deportation.
Even among Hispanics, the poll found 40% backed mandatory deportation
(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...
Only a shock to those wh aren’t paying attention or recognizing the Truth when they hear it...
41% illegals hah...they only wish. Let's not fall for the latino agit-prop.
The vote-sucking pols kneel in obeisance when latinos throw out these phony numbers.
So you are ok with this invasion?
quote “Even among Hispanics, the poll found 40% backed mandatory deportation”
wow
Trump was right.
that is a lie
if there were economic support for a conservative propaganda net work such as you long for, there would be one
There are undoubtedly 90+% of counties in the US where the public never sees the devastation caused by the influx of illegals.
Illegals hurt everyone at the bottom of the economic scale, and many in the middle (and that’s just on jobs - I haven’t touched taxes, crime, medical care or just plain forcing a different culture down the throats of those born here. The only ones that benefit are:
1) The Democratic Party - they haven’t won the white vote since at least 1948...so since they can’t convince the vast majority of people to go with them, they are simply saying, “Screw you, we’re going to bring in our own voters.” If they win on immigration, we lose on EVERY OTHER ISSUE. They will have 30 million (not 11 million, that was the probably conservative estimate of the number of illegals 10 years ago - what, there’s been no illegal immigration since then?) extra voters and will have a lock on Congress and the Presidency.
2) Big business - they just want cheap labor, and cannot look beyond the next quarter or year...to see that all of these people, if legalized, will mean higher taxes and more regulations. The H1B visas that everyone is so keen on (including, regrettably, Ted Cruz) mean that our STEM students will continue to be unemployed in larger numbers than they should be, all so that Microsoft, Facebook, et al can have cheap foreign labor...HERE, IN OUR COUNTRY.
2 (a) The Republican establishment - they get big donations from big business, so to Hell with the little guy. Plus, the little guy actually wants to cut back on DC’s power, so the GOPe isn’t going to cooperate. Once again, we get screwed.
3) The rich - they love their maids and gardeners (who wouldn’t?), but don’t want to pay Americans to do these jobs at a reasonable rate, plus pay employment taxes. Are their jobs affected by unskilled or cheap labor? Nope, so they don’t care.
4) The media - they are probably further to the left than even the Dems, so they revel in bringing this country down.
The only people who are screwed by a massive influx of people who go on welfare 71% of the time, who work under the table for cheap wages, get free medical care, don’t buy auto insurance, send their kids to school, and who REFUSE to assimilate in any substantive way are the 90% of us that actually work for a living and actually love their country.
This country and Canada are unique in the hemisphere for having a culture that was founded by English and Dutch settlers (and Canada is far more English than we are). The rest are Spanish or Portuguese (with a tiny bit of French). Sorry, this isn’t politically correct, but England and Holland are generally full of hard-working, law-abiding people who respect the rights of others. Their nations were very successful for hundreds of years...and so were we and Canada, who have similar cultures. FYI, I personally don’t have a drop of English or Dutch blood flowing through my veins - I am Jewish, with ancestry in Russia and Poland. But this culture that my ancestors came to, that they obtained a refuge from the chaos of Europe, is basically just, and is geared toward maximizing the success of individuals. My family adopted the culture, as did the vast majority of immigrants of the late 1800s and early 1900s. But Mediterranean cultures like Spain and Portugal are not so successful - the only reason they were rich, for a time, is that they looted thousands of tons of gold and silver from South and Central America. They TOOK, they didn’t make or produce. This applies EVEN MORE to the Arab and African cultures - they have no history or beliefs similar to ours, yet we are importing their people with reckless abandon, with predictable results. Yes, there are MANY good people from Latin, Arab and African nations, as well as from non-English and non-Dutch European nations...but the true success is the culture, into which most of these people have (unique among all immigrants, historically speaking) refused to assimilate. This is changing our culture for the worse...and if we don’t stop it soon, and allow the Democrats to control the elections, then this country is OVER.
Immigration is THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THIS AND EVERY ELECTION. If we lose, and the amnesty is granted (dejure or defacto), then we lose on every other issue - defense, abortion, guns, taxes, regulations, foreign relations, EVERYTHING! That is why I am now for Trump, not Cruz. Cruz is very good, but I think that only Trump, as the consummate outsider with resources enough to tell everyone else where to go, can be elected. People respect his love of country and his willingness to fight - and they know that he doesn’t need more money for he and his kids and grandkids to live a fantasy life. He is doing this because he loves the country that gave him so much, and wants it preserved.
“Because he is a billionaire, has hot weemenz around him, including his daughter he would date if he wasn’t married, and he underwrites beauty pageants, and he had a reality show at one time???
I dunno what makes him “Presidential”???”
What makes ANYONE “Presidential?”
I’d say that first and foremost is a deep and abiding love of country. We see, with the present occupant, how important that is, now that it isn’t there.
Second, substantially above-average intelligence.
Third, a knowledge of how the world works, and how to get what you (which is to say, your constituents) want.
I’d say that Trump qualifies in all of these areas...and so do many others. Now, Trump’s main knowledge and experience are in business, much less in politics (though there’s some of that in business, too). He is, I think without ANY doubt, the best negotiator among all of the candidates - he does it every single day, with his own money on the line, not that of the taxpayers. I say that it is high time that someone with knowledge of how to operate OUTSIDE OF THE BELTWAY is necessary. Government is, by its very nature, highly inefficient - would it be bad to have an highly-qualified business executive in charge, someone who knows how to pick people to manage various projects, people who can make government less inefficient?
Fourth, if you can avoid being beholden to others, you have a far better shot at being an effective President. Trump made his fortune here because of this country’s laws and culture - and he doesn’t need anyone else’s money. No one can buy influence with him, because it isn’t for sale...and I can’t say that about anyone else in this race. He has everything he wants, materially speaking, and wants his children and grand children to enjoy the same. He genuinely loves his country, which gave him such fantastic opportunity.
Denigrating the fact that he has had very nice-looking wives, accusing him of wanting to engage in incest (which he somehow resists because he’s married...WTF?), and denigrating a small part of his business experience...these do not make for a persuasive argument. Oh, and Ronald Reagan was only an actor...give me a break!
Just as wars are too important to be left to the generals, so is politics too important to be left to the politicians. Jefferson said that we needed to have a revolution every 20 years or so to keep the country on the right path - and I don’t think that he meant a literal revolution, but rather a revolution of ideas. That is part of what Trump represents. Is he the perfect messenger? Nope...but neither is anyone else. We need a huge shake-up in this nation if we are to simply survive in any kind of recognizable form, and for me Trump is the embodiment of that shake-up at this time.
“What this ultimately means is that Trump will pull many votes from that group that we haven’t been pulling in recent general elections.”
Millions of voters, many who sat out the past 2 elections too. They won’t be staying home this time.
That's NOT a surprise... most Hispanics I've known are law biding.
I agree. I know of about 90 million able bodied people that may want to have a say in the next election also.
Think they won’t be pumped up.
This guy stands a very good chance to swamp the election process in 2016.
“frothing at the mouth far left barking moonbat”...That sums up all liberals doesn’t it? I like it!
Barring unforeseeable problems, he will own the election.
I agree. This next 14 months are going to be quite interesting.
Nothing like you and I have ever seen before, that’s certain.
But I IZZ UGleeeeeee!
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