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You know the stock market is in trouble when Apple's Tim Cook is emailing Jim Cramer
The Verge ^ | 08/24/2015 | By Ben Popper

Posted on 08/24/2015 6:21:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Stock markets around the world have been posting big losses for the last few days. The route was especially rough this morning, with the DOW Jones at one point falling 1,000 points in less than an hour. At the heart of the current slide is an issue which could impact many tech companies: economic weakness in China.

Two weeks ago China's government made an aggressive move to devalue its currency. This followed several weeks of tumult in the Chinese stock market, during which the government had also interceded with force. Taken together, investors saw a Chinese market where growth was flagging. That is far from the sole cause of the recent downturn in the markets, but it was the event that really catalyzed the current selloff. China is the world's second-largest economy, and the idea that its decades-long stretch of heady growth is coming to an end was enough to panic already jittery investors.

How would a weaker China affect the tech sector? Apple CEO Tim Cook took the unusual step of reaching out directly to CNBC's Jim Cramer with a message today, an attempt to calm nervous investors. China has been by far the biggest driver of Apple's recent growth. If consumers there stop spending on items like iPhones, it could put a serious dent in Apple's earnings.

Apple's @tim_cook just e-mailed AUTO_LINK_TOKEN_2_AUTO_LINK_TOKEN @CNBC pic.twitter.com/zzEqmDKFUK — Carl Quintanilla (@carlquintanilla) August 24, 2015

Tech stocks like Facebook, Google, and Microsoft are all down today. But that doesn't really tell you much about the companies, since nearly all stocks are trading down across a variety of sectors. All told, global stocks have shed $5 trillion in value since China devalued its currency.

Stocks that were wobbling could crash

Unless we tip over into a long-term recession, most big tech companies will be fine. They have billions in cash and geographically diverse revenue streams. For young public companies like Twitter and Box, a major downturn would be more painful. If new customers dry up or advertisers spend less, stocks that were already wobbling could plummet.

On the startup side, most venture capitalists have been preaching for some time that a correction was in order. The last couple of years have been heady times, with dozens of new "unicorns" — startups with valuations over $1 billion — being created. Many of these companies have little to no revenue. Even the ones that are making money, like Snapchat and Uber, are spending way more than they are bringing in. And a lot of that late stage investment was coming from China.

The unicorn herd will be culled

The exit strategy for most of these unicorns is an acquisition or an IPO, and the latter is extremely hard to pull off in a bear market. That could mean startups are forced to raise a "down round": taking on new capital but at a lower valuation than a previous funding. It wouldn't be catastrophic to the broader economy, but it would have a massive impact on the employees, entrepreneurs, and overall environment in the tech sector, which has been reaching wild heights over the last few years.

Luckily, a bursting of the tech bubble, at least among startups, won't have nearly the impact it did during the dot-com bust. The majority of investors don't have major exposure to these companies, and a down round is not a death knell for a startup with a real business model. While it may seem like markets in the US and China are hurting, you need to remember that both have been on an amazing bull run for years leading up to this. We've got a long way to go before this is more than just a painful, but healthy, correction to very overheated markets.

The stock market plunge, in perspective. (10-year chart.) pic.twitter.com/M30thHhkrv— Justin Wolfers (@JustinWolfers) August 24, 2015



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; bloggers; china; cook; currency; dow; economy; jimcramer; microsoft; rainbowsherbert; stockmarket; technology; timcook; twitter
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To: Leaning Right

http://phys.org/news/2015-08-iron-bar-capable-decision-making.html

An iron bar could probably beat Cramer’s picks........


21 posted on 08/24/2015 6:56:18 PM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: DoughtyOne

100% correct.

China has seen America building up China. Period.

China watched America build up China, until China is now a larger economy than America is. Yet we keep selling out our own country, and selling it to China which very carefully guards their own economy.

Donald Trump is saying this is ABSURD. I and many Americas completely agree with that. Bring back American jobs, and American businesses. Both parties have been selling out our own country, for far too long.

Bring back American jobs. To America.


22 posted on 08/24/2015 6:57:20 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: nascarnation

It’s an interesting thought isn’t it.


23 posted on 08/24/2015 7:00:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It makes sense to me.

I believe Capitalism makes sense both internally, and between level societies. When you start trying to apply it to a nation that is very poor with a nation that is very well off, you are going to have an equalization effect.

The well off nation sill see severe society disruption, and the poor nation will see unrivaled creation of wealth and expansion.

That is not healthy. We were lied to. It’s obvious. It needs to end. We need to put our own people back to work.


24 posted on 08/24/2015 7:04:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: dynachrome
just how is this not a Regulation Fair Disclosure violation

I assume that is why it was made public....but then I always assume things....lol

25 posted on 08/24/2015 7:07:24 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: dynachrome

Page no longer found........:-)


26 posted on 08/24/2015 7:09:51 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: SeekAndFind

Jim Cramer has admitted when he was a stock broker that he did pump and dump schemes. I wonder whats up now with Apple. What comes after the pink iPhone 6s?


27 posted on 08/24/2015 7:11:50 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Red Badger
back in the old day trader days...a Cramer recommendation automatically put that stock in the “short” list.....Worked like a charm when u worked the charts....

anywhere between a week and 6 months they all popped up on the “short” screen...90% winners for me!!...he was an amazing tool!

28 posted on 08/24/2015 7:13:33 PM PDT by M-cubed ( Their hope is to find a way to pick a nominee who, if elected, would actually stay the course the w)
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To: ClearCase_guy

LOLOLOL!


29 posted on 08/24/2015 7:23:16 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: jsanders2001

September may be brutal....


Yes. And the next 5 or 6 years could be bad.


30 posted on 08/24/2015 7:28:23 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata
Yes. And the next 5 or 6 years could be bad.

What a depressing, exhausting thought. Probably right, but it's getting very tiresome. A lot of the political oddity of this Presidential election season thus far likely traces to that. Sick of it.

31 posted on 08/24/2015 7:31:37 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Steely Tom

Dear Timmy stop crying to Cramer. And bring back some manufacturing to the USA. China implodes your stock implodes.Man up or something.


32 posted on 08/24/2015 7:32:45 PM PDT by magua
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To: magua

One thing you can count on from Tim Cook, He’ll take a man up for sure.


33 posted on 08/24/2015 7:36:11 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Their wealth is illusory and a construct. They are at best mostly 3rd world primitives and at worst cannibals. There, I said it.

I, personally, hope they are reduced to the poverty. My, and our, buying dollar goes farther when they are poor. Thus, our quality of life is better when their quality of life is worse.

Life is a hard fought struggle for resources. I’ve made peace with that. I want my people to win.


34 posted on 08/24/2015 7:37:15 PM PDT by T-Bone Texan (The economic collapse is imminent. Buy staple food and OTC meds now, before prices skyrocket.)
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To: dynachrome; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
Because as the AAPL reaction to Tim’s letter, which was clearly in Cramer’s private possession for at least 1 millisecond before it was made public (and thus we don’t know who else may have had access to it before its public dissemination), just how is this not a Regulation Fair Disclosure violation?”

Recap of the arguments that Cook did not violate any regulations:

Cramer is a journalist who had a program that coincided with the open of market at 9AM on Monday. . . he received the responding email from Tim Cook to questions he had asked the CEO of Apple the previous evening at 8:15AM which gave him time to get it on his program. He was the one journalist with the capability to get it the widest possible dissemination. . . which it did get. The letter carried NO specific detailed financial data, only generalities. "we have experienced strong growth for our business in China through July and August. Growth in iPhone activations has actually accelerated in the past few weeks, and we have had the best performance of the App Store in China during the last 2 weeks." Nothing there is specific or detailed. . . or can count as "financial secrets" or as insider information that would give anyone an edge. It only counters the false information that is hammering AAPL from unknown sources that NEEDED to be countered and gotten into the news cycle ASAP.

Cook replied to a CNBC journalist asking specific questions and provided the answers to those questions. . . nothing more.


Apple Financial and Tim Cook email to Cramer Ping!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

35 posted on 08/24/2015 7:45:42 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Probably right, but it’s getting very tiresome.


I feel the same way. But we can’t stick our heads in the sand and avoid reality.


36 posted on 08/24/2015 7:47:23 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
I read somewhere that this raised the SEC’s eyebrows.

As far as I know, no person from the SEC has said a single thing. . . only that some other journalists have raised the possibility that there might be a violation. It was raised this morning as soon as Jim Cramer publicly reported on the Tim Cook email. As far as I've heard, the SEC has yet to be heard from. It takes days of weeks for them to say anything official.

37 posted on 08/24/2015 7:50:15 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: T-Bone Texan

I have no problem with the Chinese improving their lot in life. I don’t like seeing them do it on the backs of my fellow citizens.

I don’t like financing a totalitarian and brutally oppressive government intent on becoming a terrible force for evil on the planet.

The Spratleys make it clear that China won’t be content to merely be a global player. They are going to seek world domination.


38 posted on 08/24/2015 7:55:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (It's beginning to look like "Morning in America" again. Comment on YouTube under Trump Free Ride.)
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To: Swordmaker

I think they will show a lot more interest in what Cramer did with that info. He manages a fund also. I don’t think Cook did anything wrong.


39 posted on 08/24/2015 7:56:42 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Red Badger

40 posted on 08/24/2015 7:58:17 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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