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Movie theater shooter's mental problems didn't stop him from buying gun
Fox News ^ | July 26, 2015

Posted on 07/26/2015 5:51:28 AM PDT by Zakeet

John Russell Houser was deeply troubled long before he shot 11 people in a movie theater in Louisiana, but decades of mental problems didn't keep him from buying the handgun he used.

Despite obvious and public signs of mental illness — most importantly, a Georgia judge's order committing him to mental health treatment against his will as a danger to himself and others in 2008 — Houser was able to walk into an Alabama pawn shop six years later and buy a .40-caliber handgun.

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Court records reviewed by The Associated Press strongly suggest Houser should have been reported to the state and federal databases used to keep people with serious mental illnesses from buying firearms, legal experts said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; guncontrol; guns; louisiana
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Perhaps an even better solution than relying on failed government would have been to not make the theater into a gun free zone.

1 posted on 07/26/2015 5:51:29 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Errors in a gubmint database? Can’t be. (sarc)


2 posted on 07/26/2015 5:54:29 AM PDT by MulberryDraw
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To: Zakeet

Why is Obama-supporter missing again?

Because it explains .... everything.


3 posted on 07/26/2015 5:58:15 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Zakeet
Separated at birth?
4 posted on 07/26/2015 6:00:54 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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So:

The movie LLC owners are at fault for attempting to put every customer at risk, and themselves, by sticking little no guns here signs on the doors of the owned theaters;

The DOCTORS, defaulted on their responsibility, BY LAW, to report this deadsnithead as one to be on the lookout for;

The NICS background system worked as it should, with the information already required, but not submitted to, BY LAW.

The pawn shop did as it does, in accordance with the state and federal laws.

Yes, thedeadsnithead was the criminal, and yes, did the shooting, but the DOCTORS are criminally negligent in their duties, as per the law.


5 posted on 07/26/2015 6:01:08 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Zakeet

I can agree with having mental hospital time as an inhibitor to buying a gun

Everyone who knew this guy knew he was a lunatic


6 posted on 07/26/2015 6:01:58 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Zakeet

I tried a divorce case about 20 years ago where the husband had been hospitalized for mental illness and I had him on tape threatening his wife (my client) and me and the judge had both those pieces of evidence in the record but the judge still awarded the husband the guns in the divorce.


7 posted on 07/26/2015 6:04:26 AM PDT by Mercat (I will vote for any viable candidate running against Hillary.)
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Is it me, or does anyone else think Houser look a little like Frank Sinatra?


8 posted on 07/26/2015 6:08:11 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

See my post#4.


9 posted on 07/26/2015 6:19:36 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

Oh, sorry—you beat me to it!


10 posted on 07/26/2015 6:21:58 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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Federal law does generally prohibit the purchase or possession of a firearm by anyone who has ever been involuntarily committed for mental health treatment.

No, not GENERALLY. This is a specific question on the Form 4473 a purchaser has to fill out. It's a trigger question for the seller. The backup is supposed to be NICS' having data like this in its database. There is a fault here - either with the Georgia Court system that put him in involuntary mental health status by not amending his records, OR by how NICS aggregates and logs data. One or the other. I ponder this. Our healthcare system is a huge array of connected databases and information and cross checks. Is all that working? If not, what leads one to think a NICS system works as well? My bet is NICS is comprehensive because their purpose is to keep guns out of the hands of any American, period. This certainly deserves more discovery.

11 posted on 07/26/2015 6:24:24 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MulberryDraw

Obviously he lied on the BATF form, which is a crime and makes his possession illegal. Whether or not BATF bothered to or could check on mental is their problem and goes to show that the ‘background’ check is nothing more than liberal feel good bullshite.


12 posted on 07/26/2015 6:24:42 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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My question....did any family member know that he bought it??


13 posted on 07/26/2015 6:24:51 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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Despite obvious and public signs of mental illness — most importantly, a Georgia judge's order committing him to mental health treatment against his will as a danger to himself and others in 2008 — Houser was able to walk into an Alabama pawn shop six years later and buy a .40-caliber handgun.

Involuntary commitment to a mental institution is a lifelong disqualifier.

You can have it rescinded if you can show your mental illness is cured, but this guy did not do that.

The legal system failed. Therefore let us make more laws and not enforce those either!!! WHOOO HOOOO!!!

14 posted on 07/26/2015 6:26:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("In a very short period of time, these will be the good old days." -- unknown Freeper, 2015)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

When the TV news put up a picture of the shooter last week, I would have bet a million bucks they had made a mistake and used a Sinatra photo.


15 posted on 07/26/2015 6:30:51 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I guess white people all look the same to you.


16 posted on 07/26/2015 6:33:38 AM PDT by ecomcon
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To: oh8eleven

They say everybody’s got a near-double out there somewhere.


17 posted on 07/26/2015 6:33:43 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Mercat

And when did he shoot you?


18 posted on 07/26/2015 6:33:51 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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To: ecomcon

Not white people.


19 posted on 07/26/2015 6:34:16 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Zakeet

Why can’t we recognize evil and stop making excuses for these people.

Not all mentally ill people with the same symptoms chooses to shoot down a bunch of people.


20 posted on 07/26/2015 7:24:57 AM PDT by dila813
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