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1 posted on 06/25/2015 6:04:12 AM PDT by george76
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Well, are these true Jews with genetic roots back to the 12 Tribes?

Or are they Khazar Jews who are descended from a Caucasian ethnicity that adopted Judaism for political and economic power (so they wouldn’t have to fight the Muslims on one side of their empire and the Christians on the other side)?

I think a lot of Jewish Americans who are not practicing Jews and who are hardcore secularists (that is, JINOs) and who use their “Jewish heritage/culture” to push a socialist/communist agenda have more in common with the character of the Khazars than they do the Jews I study in the Old Testament.


2 posted on 06/25/2015 6:06:38 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Carter...Reagan...Bush...Clinton....Bush....Carter....BUSH? / CLINTON? STOP THE INSANITY!)
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There are really two Jewish votes; the religious Jewish vote and the secular Jewish vote.

So. Is this saying one group is Jewish "for convenience" and the other is "for conviction?"

3 posted on 06/25/2015 6:07:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: george76

I am one of the proud 38%.


4 posted on 06/25/2015 6:09:21 AM PDT by Blennos
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Later


5 posted on 06/25/2015 6:10:27 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: george76

Same general trend with Christians.


6 posted on 06/25/2015 6:13:15 AM PDT by ecomcon
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It is the chronic behavior of an alienated, historically persecuted distinct minority that no matter how successful or woven into a culture, have a primordial fear of sudden persecution, expulsion and death.


7 posted on 06/25/2015 6:15:15 AM PDT by allendale
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So WHAT do Jews think, not feel, about OBAMA invalidating American Citizens born is Jerusalem listing "ISRAEL" in passports as their country of birth ? Or, do they NOT KNOW ?
8 posted on 06/25/2015 6:16:48 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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When asked what it means to be Jewish, 56 percent of American Jews mentioned social justice, 42 percent mentioned comedy and only 43 percent mentioned Israel. 28 percent mentioned being part of a Jewish community. Only 19 percent mentioned anything involving religion.

This is a difference in self-perception between what might be called "growing-up Christians," meaning people who grew up in families that thought of themselves in Christian terms, and "growing-up Jews." When a "growing-up Christian" stops attending church and abandons Christian doctrine, that person ceases to think of him/herself as a Christian, but when a "growing-up Jew" stops attending synagogue and abandons Jewish doctrine, that person continues to think of him/herself as a Jew.

However...while those in the Christian community (including me) make a distinction between practicing Christians and lapsed or nominal Christians, Muslims make no such distinction: to a Muslim, everyone who grew up Christian is a Christian, regardless of belief, and everyone who grew up a Jew is a Jew, regardless of belief. So if/when the day comes that Ameristan arises out of the ashes of America, all progressives who did not think of themselves as Christians will be treated just the same as people who proclaim themselves as Christians, ditto for progressive Jews. When your enemy rules over you, you are what your enemy says you are.

9 posted on 06/25/2015 6:20:23 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Evan Sayet has the operative theory on Jews and their voting, IMO. He points out that among religions, Jews are quite unique in that there is no requirement to do anything or to act a certain way to be “Jewish”. All that has to happen is that you emerge from a Jewish womb. He calls them “plopping Jews”. I found that an interesting observation.


10 posted on 06/25/2015 6:23:35 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: george76

Pretty much not a “Jewish” thing, but an atheist thing,
independent of ancestry.

Obviously Obama’s actions and beliefs are anti-Scripture,
but only those who know and believe Scripture would understand this.


13 posted on 06/25/2015 6:41:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Wish I could recall the name of the Jewish comic who made this observation.

“There are plenty of people who identify and wish to be known as Jewish. They just don’t want to be bothered by this God guy hanging around.”


15 posted on 06/25/2015 6:43:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Some whites like to identify themselves as Jews so they could be considered a minority, even don’t practice the religion at all


16 posted on 06/25/2015 6:44:28 AM PDT by 4rcane
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I am reminded of a story my father told about his days as a beach attendant at one of Atlantic City’s gracious old hotels back in the city’s pre-casino heyday.

One of his favorite regulars was a Jewish woman, who lived at the hotel a good part of the vacation season. Late in the season she stopped coming to the beach, but he knew she had not checked out, and when she returned, he inquired why. She explained that it has been the High Holy Days, and explained their nature. He observed that several other Jewish guests (he gave names in his telling, but I’ve forgotten them) had continued to come to the beach, and she made a disgusted noise and said, “They’re not Jews, they’re kikes!”

The odd use of a word normally taken to be an antisemitic slur by a pious Jewish woman points to exactly the phenomenon Greenfield is discussing: Jews whose Jewishness is limited to anti-Christianity. (Illiterate Jews used to use a circle as a signature in place of the X illiterate Christians used, from which the pejorative word, whether used as in this story or as an antisemitic slur, derived).


17 posted on 06/25/2015 6:47:10 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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Or maybe, like their white Christian counterparts, they really have drank the Kool-Aid of the PC suicide pact.


19 posted on 06/25/2015 6:56:23 AM PDT by Tupelo (I fell more like Phillip Nolan every day.)
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I was listening to Beck yesterday to hear a guy from Liberty Institute talk about how many Federal laws will kick in if SCOTUS rules in favor of gay marriage (depends a lot on how they word their opinion). He was telling people that the churches need to defend themselves ... mission statement, purpose statement, facility use policy, church bylaws & constitution & employment/administrative policies should all be consistent in setting forth sincere religious beliefs with consistent adherence to those policies that are adopted in order to avoid legal problems that arise from applying a “double standard.” (Here’s the link if you’d like to explore further: https://www.libertyinstitute.org/church-audits )

All of this being said, when I read through the template documents, despite being LCMS, I think more than a few folks in the church I attend would have a hard time agreeing with what is set forth in the policies on same sex, transgender, sex outside of marriage, etc. Being people of faith (Jewish or Christian) is more likely to cause disapproval with Obama’s policies since they are in direct conflict with God’s Word, but speaking from experience, there are an awful lot of “casual” Christians out there who let such matters on sex, abortion, marriage (and sin in general) slide and are ‘liberal’ and I would strongly suspect they vote Democrat (social justice & all that stuff). One of the saddest parts of the Bible is in the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus talks about the last day when many who were convinced they knew Christ will be told, “Depart from me, I never knew you.” There is nothing casual about true Christianity—you’re either in it, all the way, or you’re tragically on the outside and in grave peril.


20 posted on 06/25/2015 7:09:28 AM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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The One Number That Shows Why Jews Really Vote Liberal

This is a meaningless proposition. Take your choice at the poll, and you get a Republicrat that follows lockstep with the dictator.

21 posted on 06/25/2015 7:34:02 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (behind enemy lines)
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Jews are liberal because of genetics. This is evidenced by the fact there are Jews voicing conservative principles, but when they enter the voting booth the strain becomes so severe that they scream and pull the ‘vote democratic lever.’ It is just a fact of nature.


25 posted on 06/25/2015 7:59:49 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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Thanks george76.
There are really two Jewish votes; the religious Jewish vote and the secular Jewish vote... Only 11 percent of American Jews attend religious services weekly. Among Americans in general, it's over 40 percent...
Of that 40 percent, how many attend fake religious services like that offered up by the Nation of Islam?
28 posted on 06/25/2015 11:04:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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Something is funny about this. He gets (estimated) an over-all approval of about 50 percent yet gets over 70 percent of their votes!


31 posted on 06/25/2015 6:03:33 PM PDT by TexasGator
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