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Waco Shootout Linked to North Texas Attacks
NBCDFW ^ | May 19 2015 | Scott Gordon

Posted on 05/23/2015 2:58:49 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode

The shootout in Waco that killed nine motorcycle gang members began in the weeks before Christmas with a beating at a Toys for Tots event in Wise County and a murder in Fort Worth, according to law enforcement sources.

The backdrop is a growing turf battle between the Bandidos – which has controlled Texas for years – and the Cossacks, a lesser-known biker gang that has been gaining power by aligning itself with Bandido rivals, the sources said.

On Dec. 12, 10 Bandidos burst into Gator’s bar in Fort Worth and "without saying a word, started punching and attacking people," according to a police affidavit.

They then opened fire, killing one motorcycle club member, Geoff Brady of Arlington, and injuring three others, police said.

Three gang members were arrested on murder charges. They are out of jail on $100,000 bond each.

Exactly one week earlier, on Dec. 6, other Bandidos members beat a rival biker at a Toys for Tots event in Decatur, police said. The victim declined to press charges and no arrests were made.

Law enforcement sources say the two incidents and now the Waco shootout highlight a growing fight for control of those drug trafficking routes in Texas.

Groups pay a "tax" to the Bandidos for permission to operate freely without trouble, experts say, but the Cossacks are refusing to pay the Bandidos and are aligning themselves with other biker gangs, including the Bandidos’ largest rival, the Hell’s Angels.

"Like any criminal organization, it's about money, it's about control, it's about a lifestyle,” said former North Texas FBI agent Gil Torrez.

"You know, be it La Cosa Nostra, or be it motorcycle gangs, if they are a criminal organization, sooner or later, they have to be dealt with." The Texas Department of Public Safety profiled the Bandidos in an unclassified Texas Gang Threat Assessment just last year.

It identifies the Bandidos Outlaw Motorcycle Gang as a criminal enterprise, right behind the Bloods and the Crips street gangs.

"Although these gangs vary in size and structure, they are responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime across urban, suburban and rural areas of Texas," the report said.

Following the Fort Worth murder, the Bandidos and Cossacks have been involved in at least a dozen violent attacks across North Texas involving hammers, chains and guns, experts said. In some cases, rival gang members have tried to literally run each other off highways.

Now, with the high-profile shootout in Waco, local, state and federal law enforcement agencies are gearing up to crack down.

"Law enforcement has got to be on high alert,” Torrez said. “I'm sure they're beating the bricks and doing what they can to develop human intelligence and try to defend against this."

To prevent trouble, some North Texas bar owners are now posting signs which prohibit customers from entering with motorcycle club "cuts, colors or support T-shirts."

Others have similar dress codes.

"We don't allow any of the colors, the back patches, the knifes [sic], the chains — anything like that," said Brandon Murdoch, with Chill Sports Bar & Grill in Grapevine. "We have plenty of people that ride motorcycles that come in here, we even have a designated motorcycle parking, but none of the '1 per-centers' as they like to call themselves."

"If you bend for one or two, then five or six are going to show up, and it can be pretty intimidating for a bar owner," added Murdoch.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bandidos; bikers; cophatersonfr; cossacks; fortworth; gangs; hellsangels; ihatecops; shootout; texas; toysfortots; twinpeaks; waco; wisecounty
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To: gaijin

Multiple motorcycle clubs were there.
No where near all of them tied to criminal activity of any sort.

Perhaps you wish to assert that wearing jeans and leather in itself constitutes criminal activity?


21 posted on 05/23/2015 5:32:33 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
The shootout in Waco that killed nine motorcycle gang members began in the weeks before Christmas with a beating at a Toys for Tots event in Wise County and a murder in Fort Worth, according to law enforcement sources.


And there in lies the problem. You can not get an honest evaluation as long as you use a flawed, self serving source.

22 posted on 05/23/2015 5:37:12 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (In an Oligarchy, the serfs don't count.)
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To: heylady; Ethan Clive Osgoode; Celtic Conservative

heylady wrote:

“I live in North Texas, watch local news every day, and this is the first I have heard of any of these previous altercations between “biker gangs” “

Same here.

And I agree with Celtic conservative’s take on it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3292756/posts?page=3#3


23 posted on 05/23/2015 5:39:43 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; Texas Fossil

http://www.yourstephenvilletx.com/news/local/motorcycle-rally-in-dublin-to-go-on-as-planned/article_6b231743-7338-5a49-b212-82d6f80ebd9f.html

Motorcycle rally in Dublin to go on as planned

Thursday, May 21, 2015 12:30 pm

By Sara Vanden Berge

Dublin police officials said they are not at all concerned about this weekend’s motorcycle rally at Dublin City Park.

Sgt. Bennie Noel said the city is expecting hundreds of motorcycle enthusiasts affiliated with the Gypsy Motorcycle Club and their families during the holiday weekend.

“We have talked to their president and have no reason to believe there will be any trouble,” Noel said. “They had nothing to do with what happened in Waco.”

Waco is still reeling from last weekend’s brawl between rival motorcycle gangs that left nine people dead.

A rally in Mingus scheduled this weekend was canceled following increased concerns that more violence could take place.

But Noel said he doesn’t see that happening in Dublin and will allow this weekend’s rally to go on as planned.

The group has rented out the park through Sunday and will stay there in campers and hotels in the city.

Noel said there will be no increased police presence at the event.

Sheriff Tommy Bryant said Thursday that Dublin officials have not reached out to them for any additional support.


24 posted on 05/23/2015 6:02:50 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
The Hildabeast’s bloody fingerprints are all over this.
25 posted on 05/23/2015 6:05:24 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Perhaps you don't understand that every third member of a "motorcycle gang" in the United States is either a gruberment informant, or works directly for the gruberment.

You Chummies don't have that kind of money to spread around, sadly...

26 posted on 05/23/2015 6:06:13 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
----It identifies the Bandidos Outlaw Motorcycle Gang as a criminal enterprise, right behind the Bloods and the Crips street gangs.----

Unmentioned was the Democrat Party

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27 posted on 05/23/2015 6:09:58 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: wastoute
All evidence so far, in the absence of such, points to police shooters out of control. If the police are going to act like “just another gang” let them provide their own resources to do so.

Shut up and pay your property taxes, peasant - or you'll get what the bikers got...

28 posted on 05/23/2015 6:10:22 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: bert
Haven't seen that one in a while, LOL!

It used to be on half the threads during the impeachment wars. :)

29 posted on 05/23/2015 6:11:23 AM PDT by kiryandil (Egging the battleship USS Sarah Palin from their little Progressive rowboats...)
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To: Bryanw92

Rumors (i.e. the grapevine) usually have some basis in facts. Unnamed sources operate purely to advance their agenda.
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You’ve never been a guest on a U.S. Navy boat then (Marines can call ‘em boats).


30 posted on 05/23/2015 6:11:43 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: MrEdd

I am surprised that Rolling Thunder has not been mentioned once in the discussion of the Waco altercation. Thousands of “bikers” assemble in DC on Memorial Day weekend to show respect for fallen military heroes. They are cheered on by the spectators. I don’t ever remember any problem from these really scary looking bikers dresses in leathers.


31 posted on 05/23/2015 6:15:51 AM PDT by heylady
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To: heylady
I live in North Texas, watch local news every day, and this is the first I have heard of any of these previous altercations between “biker gangs”

You don't remember seeing this guy on the news?


32 posted on 05/23/2015 6:16:04 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: raybbr

none of your links come close to providing any evidence of that.


33 posted on 05/23/2015 6:16:54 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

That guy belongs in a Melville novel.


34 posted on 05/23/2015 6:19:41 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: S.O.S121.500

>>You’ve never been a guest on a U.S. Navy boat then (Marines can call ‘em boats).

No. I’ve never been a “guest”. But I did serve on boats for several years. They were submarines, so we called them boats too. On a boat full of Navy only, the rumor mill always had a kernel of fact at the core.


35 posted on 05/23/2015 6:23:21 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: heylady

Interesting point.


36 posted on 05/23/2015 6:48:43 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode; GeronL
"You know, be it La Cosa Nostra, or be it motorcycle gangs, if they are a criminal organization, sooner or later, they have to be dealt with." The Texas Department of Public Safety profiled the Bandidos in an unclassified Texas Gang Threat Assessment just last year.

When are the coy-o-tes who smuggle millions of men, women, and children into the country going to be dealt with? Rape, human trafficking, drug running, gun running, aid and comfort to international terrorists, falsified identities... sound like crimes to me.

37 posted on 05/23/2015 6:52:05 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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To: PalmettoMason
Dobyns is a proven liar who is such an opportunist that he sued his old employer, the BATF.

I saw video of him being interviewed once, and the dude blinked every 1-2 seconds. In many, that is a 'tell' they're lying.

38 posted on 05/23/2015 7:05:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Bryanw92

On a boat full of Navy only, the rumor mill always had a kernel of fact at the core.
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Start a “juicy” bit of scuttlebutt at morning mess and see how ‘accurate’ it was when it came around later.

Start a line at any secured hatch (under a ladder way was good) and let it be known that a gedunk for Cokes, beer, snickers, etc. was going in say 20 minutes and slip away once the line was well-formed.

Good times under duress......


39 posted on 05/23/2015 7:10:55 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights ......... It's the LAW !!!)
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To: heylady

The media tries to ignore 900,000 bikers rolling into DC in support of veterans and those killed and missing in action.

Same way the media ignores a million pro-lifers marching in DC.

But 10,000 homos, THAT is newsworthy.


40 posted on 05/23/2015 7:11:11 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Funny how Hollywood's 'No Nukes' crowd has been silent during Obama's Iranian nuclear negotiations.)
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