Posted on 05/21/2015 10:42:22 AM PDT by reaganaut1
The president of the Boy Scouts of America on Thursday called for an end to the groups blanket ban on gay adult leaders, warning Scout executives that we must deal with the world as it is, not as we might wish it to be, and that any other alternative will be the end of us as a national movement.
At the same time, religious organizations that sponsor a majority of local Scout troops, including the Mormons and Roman Catholics, should remain free to set their own policies for leaders, said the president, Robert M. Gates, the former director of the C.I.A. and the former secretary of defense.
Mr. Gates called for the changes at an annual national meeting of the group, in Atlanta. He said that he was not yet making a formal proposal but that the Scouts governing body should take up the issue formally at a future meeting.
The treatment of gay men and boys has been a source of wrenching debate over the last decade. Conservative religious groups that sponsor many Scout troops, including the Mormon Church and the Roman Catholic Church, have opposed the participation of openly gay members while local leaders in more liberal areas have called for an end to the ban.
In 2013, Boy Scout leaders from across the country voted, with more than 60 percent approval, to say that no youth may be denied membership on the basis of sexual orientation or preference alone. But it left intact the policy that no openly gay adults could serve in the organization.
Since then, a Scout group in New York has defied that policy by employing an openly gay leader, and several other groups around the country have expressed opposition to the ban.
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Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Most people think that when we do these things God will withdraw His Blessings. I think these things happen after God has withdrawn his Blessing.
IMO— it is because there is a vast underground of pedophiles throughout our governmental bureaucracies. Dirty old men who like little boys mostly. The word for them is queers.
Just barely exposed, the level of protection built in for them— for example the Penn State Sandusky debacle. This was a large network of co-enablers and fellow queers. There is no doubt about it.
This was exposed in the UK years ago and persists here.
The Boy Scouts of America has had to deal with old queers wanting to “get close” to developing boys— for years. And now this moron, Gates (an Eagle Scout btw) says the solution is to “let it happen” to save on money— Bull crap!
Maybe he is one too— come on out Gates “old boy”.
Amen. This is NO solution Gates proposes. He must be one of them,too.
Well, Robbie Gates is a scout. How wonderful!
Hope everyone gets their kids out of the Cub/Boy Scouts if they go through with this.
First hint: They all went to Harvard and Yale together.
Second hint: Gates is part of that swishy-squishy rotten core of the GOP that has held the party thrall (or should I say, "bent over"?) since Bush 41 blackmailed his way onto the Reagan ticket in 1980. Maybe longer.
But Gates is tough! While he was president of Texas A&M University (a project of Bush Senior's, to turn A&M into Yale West and show his soigne' East Coast Bonesman-buddies how much civilizing pull he had over those redneck knuckle-draggers, that he could teach them to sip wine with their pinkies stuck out and trill little jokes en Francaise.
Gates showed one redneck kid how it was! Kid had a little confederate-flag sticker an inch square on his footlocker in the Corps of Cadets dormitory: Gates sent the word down, that that Odious Symbol was coming off his footlocker within the hour, or the kid was out of the Corps in a flash! I was so knocked out, when I read that -- Gates is tough! On a pimply kid from Jasper or Texarkana. Yeah, sure 'nuff.
Hey, Gates, how tough are you on diesel dykes raping women in U.S. Army barracks? On gay sergeants coming on to private soldiers' privates? Oh, really? No? Didn't think so.
Hypocritical elitist bastard.
I concur, it is the kind and intensity of crime that nations can and will be held accountable for.
The idea of "no accountability" is one of the original, root abuses of the Left, remember.
BSA needs to go with three-deep leadership, just to make it harder for the perverts to pair double-team kids on camping trips. Better, they could man up and say that, no, BSA is not a candy store for predators. Its sad what has happened to a formerly great organization.
You'll never sell that to the predators. As far as they're concerned, it's all over but the picking over and feasting. The BSA has failed the test of manhood, and their enemies know it. Here they come.
Of course, they are I old school terminology, “camping” but they wouldn’t go far without factors on the inside of the U.S. Camping isn’t lazy either, but it involves abstaining fr a brute force assault on the main enemy.
Translation: corporate sponsors are getting heat for contributing to a "homophobic" organization. Not bowing before the LGBT activists will mean the end of HQ staff being able to get big paychecks.
Better to abandon big corporate sponsors and have the HQ be staffed by retired volunteers, than do this. If they do this, it will be the END of scouting. Period.
“The government will hold the gay card to some regard in all churches. Some sort of punishment will be thought up for all the pastors and priests who refuse to marry the gays.
“Some sort of punishment” has always been forthcoming in nations that require its citizens to bow to Baal. I just hope Christians in this nation realize, when that time comes, that “the government made me do it” isn’t an acceptable excuse for denying one’s faith. Losing material things is a small inconvenience compared to losing ones soul.
“My thoughts, first, the sexual revolution of the 60s gave birth to a culture that embraced the idea that sexual intercourse was first and foremost for pleasure with pregnancy a consequence to be mostly avoided...once it became acceptable to have sex outside of marriage, all pleasurable perversions became acceptable.”
I agree. I also think the “women’s movement” has done its part to advance this hedonistic view. Even Christian women of today will be ready to lift your scalp if you dare voice the opinion that Scripture says woman was made for man as a helpmate and to reproduce and should never usurp his power
or try to rule over him. If that doesn’t get you burned at the stake by the “Sisterhood”, make the remark that there are, most likely, no female angels. You will NOT experience a civil debate! :)
THE ENEMY WITHIN
This man is disgusting and should be tossed out immediately.
I grew up in an environment where almost all my friends were Cub Scouts and then Boy Scouts.
I shudder to think how vulnerable we all were on those long hikes and camping trips.
But we never had a single questionable incident.
Our leaders were some of the finest people I have ever known.
They provided guidance, education and protection.
They did not prey on us.
The Scouts are an organization dedicated to serving the young scouts.
Their safety and well being are paramount.
Not the frail egos of homosexuals who want to pretend they are normal - but just in a different way.
I am not that old. But I can remember a day when this country wasn’t run by perverts and Communists. It was a MUCH better place. It’s all down hill culturally from here, short of national repentance before God.
Robert Gates is preemptively determining that statement. The thing is he claims that they have to keep up with the times and that legal action will somehow be a nightmare if they don't allow the gays in full force.
He must not have a clue as to the amount of legal action and loss of revenue the Boy Scouts will experience due to them opening the canvas of the tent to the perverts. Yeah, I said it - PERVERTS!!!
He is a real idiot. Just lay down Bob, and let everyone kick you in the @$$.
I wonder how NAMBLA played into all this. I understand they may have played a role in helping the liberal gay community in establishing credence in our society. I also understand Nancy Pelosi marched along side with the founder of the San Francisco Gay Parade, who just happen to be a supporter of NAMBLA.
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