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Zuckerberg Ally: Americans Losing Jobs To Foreigners: ‘This Is What...Whole Country Is Built On’
Daily Caller ^ | May 9, 2015 | Rachel Stoltzfoos

Posted on 05/20/2015 6:56:09 PM PDT by Freedom56v2

A venture capitalist associated with Mark Zuckerberg’s immigration lobbying group Fwd.us insulted American workers who lost their job to foreigners at a recent immigration event, saying they got what they deserved.

“You know, I’m relatively crude on that,” capitalist Lars Dalgaard said at the National Journal event that was partly sponsored by Fwd.us, which lobbies for more legal immigration and a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants. “It’s like, if you want the job, make yourself able to get the job, you know?”

Dalgaard, who Fwd.us boasts is one of its “major contributors,” had been asked by the Journal’s Niharika Acharya to respond to concerns about hundreds of American workers who were recently fired by Southern California Edison and more or less forced to train their foreign replacements.

“Like, nobody’s going to hold you up and carry you around the world,” Dalgaard continued.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corporatewelfare; displacedworkers; h1b; h1bvisa; immigration; unemployed
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To: ClearCase_guy

“We brought over the Irish, the Chinese, the Italians, the Poles, you name it.”

They weren’t “brought over” they gambled their and their descendants well-being on their ability to grasp the opportunities offered by a new land. No guarantees no safety net.


41 posted on 05/20/2015 7:42:08 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Barack Obama is not inarguably sane.)
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To: bushwon

Diminishing the economic status of Americans through immigration is an underhanded back door method that elites are using to gain unfettered power.

It really does take a middle class to hold our political class accountable. The MC doesn’t take guff from politicians and the MC votes. Countries with large numbers of unemployed and people in poverty are not often big voters nor informed. That’s their goal.

I have had many conversations from supposed conservatives over the years that absurdly were convinced by corporatists to back the outsourcing and exportation of our jobs, as though it was good for America. Reality is it was good only for global companies that should have no right to even lobby our Congress. Conservatism is not global corporatism that wants open borders. They are opposites.


42 posted on 05/20/2015 7:48:37 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Free speech and the 1st A is dead when it becomes illegal to criticize illegals or any others.)
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To: bushwon

I’m pretty certain that 90% of all foreign business - particularly offshoring - is rife with corruption. For one thing it’s the perfect vehicle for the ruling elite to launder money into offshore bank accounts.


43 posted on 05/20/2015 7:53:29 PM PDT by The Duke (Azealia Banks)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Well, to start, the media propaganda machine is controlled by multinationals: they are not loyal to Americans. They support foreign business interests over interests of American workers. You will have a hard time selling this to the people without the media.


44 posted on 05/20/2015 7:56:02 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: TexasGunLover
 Get American kids to start getting STEM degrees and we won’t need to hire H1B’S. Until then, we need more H1B’s.

Exactly. My son just got his Chemical Engineering degree from Purdue. He said the work to get the degree was grueling, and a lot of American kids aren't willing to stay up until 3 a.m. on Friday nights doing calculations to get that degree. But the Asian kids are. His commencement program read like the Shanghai phone book.

45 posted on 05/20/2015 7:56:06 PM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

‘Thots?’

We’re ALL Free Agents. Always have been, always will be, no matter where we are in this world.

My advice? Get your sorry @ss some MARKETABLE skills. CREATE something or DO something or KNOW something that people will PAY you to create/do/know for them.

Be a Problem Solver!

Same as it ever was...


All I can say about your comment is though it may sound great on paper, problem is that in our world today, it is increasingly difficult to be a “free agent” and a problem solver....

Not sure how many of your family members or friends are looking for tech jobs, employed in technology or perhaps unemployed in technology....but what you say is much easier said than done in this economy...

Many of the tech workers have gotten their “sorry @ss some MARKETABLE skills,” but they are being replaced due to unfair labor practices (H-1B visa workers are not supposed to be replacing qualified US workers) and unfair wage competition (indenturing the foreign workers because they must be sponsored by a company to work here, so they can be underpaid and overworked as they cannot easily change companies).

Oh, and many displaced US workers have “CREATEed something or DOne something or KNOWn something that people will PAY them to create/do/know for them”. However, they are often working two jobs or part-time jobs as companies have resorted to hiring part time workers to avoid Obamacare, etc.

As it has often been repeated, in this day and age of increased regulation and global competition, companies such as Microsoft, Dell, and Apple would not have been easily started if at all...

Fewer and fewer jobs are safe...getting MARKETABLE skills will become more and more difficult when one is competing with a low-paid foreign worker, a computer with AI or a robot can do the job 24/7 with no health insurance required....

I seem to recall that you work in agriculture/
horticulture. You may be interested to know that some say that human plant breeders will soon become obsolete as computers can do a better job of picking particular varieties, etc, so agriculture jobs in Wisconsin are not immune to dislocation. My point is that no jobs are immune and although I know what you say can be done, it is smug to imply that it is easy...don’t worry about quadrupling H-1B visa workers in this soft economy ...

just learn some skills & be a problem solver...as anyone on FR knows, the world is a very complicated troubled place....


46 posted on 05/20/2015 8:04:46 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; RushIsMyTeddyBear

Just saw this post #19...it epitomizes what I am talking about...

Yeah, great. Family around the corner who are devout Christians and homeschool just lost their income because Indians were chosen to do the IT work for cheap. The dad is trying to keep the lights on by doimg freelance work.

19 posted on 5/20/2015, 9:12:23 PM by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as “Casa Blanca”.)
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47 posted on 05/20/2015 8:07:34 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: GenXteacher

My thoughts- people without jobs cannot buy goods, no matter how cheap. And putting money into the pockets of people like the Chicoms is sowing dragon’s teeth.


Agreed, tho it is getting more and more difficult to find goods made in USA.


48 posted on 05/20/2015 8:08:58 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins

They find ways to try to say there were no qualified American workers. Like they did in Las Vegas driving out teachers.

Then the Republican governor signs a bill so they can hire illegals as teachers.

Well they drove out good teachers. Had principals making 6 figure salaries writing up teachers for anything and imposing new rules to make it easier to write them up. So they get rid of already tenured American teachers.

Now bring in the illegals.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3290869/posts


Thanks for posting...I had forgotten about this example :(


49 posted on 05/20/2015 8:10:21 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Wolfie

Major political Parties support their corporate paymasters. It’s a race to the bottom for 99% of us, a race to the top for 1%.


Amazing isn’t it... :(


50 posted on 05/20/2015 8:11:51 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: bushwon
Succesfactors which Lars sold to SAP, is an HR platform - which was driven from their "Managing Diversity and Inclusion". check it out...

a16z is another example of silicon valley liberals running the roost, but is that is par for the course these days.

51 posted on 05/20/2015 8:13:06 PM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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To: VerySadAmerican

This is more proof the powers that be, from both parties, want this country destroyed. Bush won. His daddy said “There is a new world order.”


For many years, I believed the GOP had the country’s interests (and mine) at heart. Not so any more :(


52 posted on 05/20/2015 8:13:37 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: TexasGunLover

H1B’s don’t make less. Get American kids to start getting STEM degrees and we won’t need to hire H1B’S. Until then, we need more H1B’s.

IT manager- 18 years


Sorry, not sure for whom you work, tho I am glad that your company is not underpaying H-1B visa workers.

However, according to my son, IT worker in Cali, they do make less. BTW, all my family members have STEM degrees (2 PhDs, 1 BS/MS, and 1 AS/BS) and they all say H1B visas are affecting US jobs and salaries.

You are talking about kids getting STEM degrees, yet there are many displaced tech workers...read about Disney and Edison—they are not easily finding work.


53 posted on 05/20/2015 8:21:08 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: impimp

I am one of those Freepers that doesn’t want the federal government to subsidize American workers by blocking cheap labor or discouraging outsourcing. In the long run, our country is as strong as its economy. I want America to stay strong.


I, too want a strong economy. I don’t think that controlling immigration is subsidizing American workers...As a country, we have always controlled immigration to suit our country’s needs—and I am not sure cheap coders for Zuckerberg’s Facebook or Disney is serving the national interest when our U-6 unemployment is so high.

The tech companies are clamoring for foreign workers because of a supposed shortage, yet there are more and more examples of US works training their foreign replacements...who then become unemployed. I don’t think this is strengthening the US economy....

IMHO, one of the great strengths of our country and economy has been the strength of our middle class—which is being squeezed by government regulation, foreign worker competition, A/I and robotics.


54 posted on 05/20/2015 8:30:56 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Rockitz

This is the reason why Governor Scott Walker will be the next President of the United States.


Sounds good to me :)


55 posted on 05/20/2015 8:31:40 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: bushwon

The problem we face is that to employ an American a company is required to pay an additional 30% in taxes regulations and insurance. I can outperform any foreigner. But not when I cost two or three tmes as much. The only solution is for government to stop treating business as a golden goose. Instead business should be treated like the blessing that it is.


56 posted on 05/20/2015 8:34:27 PM PDT by CyberSpartacus
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To: impimp

Wow, good for you.

I am assuming you have a very unique skill set that no qualified US worker possesses in order to fill position as per immigration regs...

Oh and this is not what appears to be happening now as per Disney, Edison, etc.


57 posted on 05/20/2015 8:34:53 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: apoliticalone

Diminishing the economic status of Americans through immigration is an underhanded back door method that elites are using to gain unfettered power.

It really does take a middle class to hold our political class accountable. The MC doesn’t take guff from politicians and the MC votes. Countries with large numbers of unemployed and people in poverty are not often big voters nor informed. That’s their goal.

I have had many conversations from supposed conservatives over the years that absurdly were convinced by corporatists to back the outsourcing and exportation of our jobs, as though it was good for America. Reality is it was good only for global companies that should have no right to even lobby our Congress. Conservatism is not global corporatism that wants open borders. They are opposites.


Spot on!


58 posted on 05/20/2015 8:37:53 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: The Duke

I’m pretty certain that 90% of all foreign business - particularly offshoring - is rife with corruption. For one thing it’s the perfect vehicle for the ruling elite to launder money into offshore bank accounts.


Interesting thot...I have heard that there are kickbacks to the H-1B “placement” firms...


59 posted on 05/20/2015 8:39:15 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: Battle Hymn of the Republic

Succesfactors which Lars sold to SAP, is an HR platform - which was driven from their “Managing Diversity and Inclusion”. check it out...

a16z is another example of silicon valley liberals running the roost, but is that is par for the course these days.


Par for course is right!


60 posted on 05/20/2015 8:41:12 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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