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Student Who Got In to Eight Ivy League Schools Picks Alabama Instead
Townhall.com ^ | May 17, 2015 | Christine Rousselle

Posted on 05/17/2015 7:13:00 PM PDT by Kaslin

Ronald Nelson from Memphis, Tennessee, is a senior at Houston High School. He was accepted to all eight Ivy League schools--that's Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, Columbia, Brown, Cornell, and UPenn--along with Johns Hopkins, Stanford, and Vanderbilt, among a few other schools. While any of these schools are fantastic options, Nelson made headlines for another reason: he turned them all down. Nelson will be attending the University of Alabama this fall, as a member of the school's honors program.

While it may seem shocking that a student would turn down a prestigious university for a state school, Nelson actually showed impressive maturity and financial foresight with his college choice. Unlike every other school he was accepted to, Alabama offered him a full merit scholarship and waived his out-of-state fees. None of the Ivies offer merit scholarships. As Nelson plans on attending medical school, he figured that he'd rather get a head start on saving money for that rather than take on student loans for undergrad.

From Business Insider:

After some thought and consideration of all the schools' offers, Nelson decided it wouldn't be worth the financial strain to use this money on his undergraduate education. He plans on going to medical school after college, and knows he'll be faced with more tuition costs.

"With people being in debt for years and years, it wasn't a burden that Ronald wanted to take on and it wasn't a burden that we wanted to deal with for a number of years after undergraduate," Ronald Sr. said. "We can put that money away and spend it on his medical school, or any other graduate school."

Bravo. If a person has aspirations of a graduate school, there is absolutely no reason to go in to debt during undergrad if it can be avoided. If Nelson is able to maintain the level of academic success he had in high school, he'll have no problem getting in to a quality medical school.

Additionally, Nelson is likely doing himself a favor by removing himself from the Ivy League's notorious pressure-filled atmosphere. College is a place to learn, yes, but America's elite schools have turned students in to, as one Yale professor called it,"Excellent Sheep."

The average member of the class of 2015 is graduating from college with over $35,000 in debt, which is a number that continues to rise with each graduating class. It's incredibly wise for Nelson (and, well, any student entering undergrad this year) to avoid that debt if at all possible.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: collegesandunis; education; highereducation; rolltide; studentloandebt
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To: Betty Jane

She’s doing Alabama Action. She’ll be active in the honors college. It’s one of the reasons she picked Alabama. She’s also going to do Cru or another campus ministry. I think she’s going to join one of the choirs.

She’s not rushing. Not her thing.

I’m excited for her.


41 posted on 05/17/2015 10:26:51 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Kaslin

Nelson is from my hometown. I prayed for him after hearing his story on the local talk show. He’s from a middle class family and didn’t even have the money to visit the Ivy league schools. Glad he chose the state school. Hope he does volunteer medical work. My sister who’s a UT med school discovered med schools look at not just grades but also the volunteer work one has done in the medical community.


42 posted on 05/17/2015 11:37:18 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: Will88

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rz2jRHA9fo

Brandon Marsalis briefly touches on that subject in this clip (Warning - some mild profanity)


43 posted on 05/17/2015 11:43:47 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Vigilanteman

No, I’m not. Average financial aid at Harvard is about $50k per year.


44 posted on 05/18/2015 1:38:08 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Kaslin

Ping


45 posted on 05/18/2015 1:57:19 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!)
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To: Fiji Hill
Mastering German would have cured him of this sort of error.

I've heard he prefers Austrian.

46 posted on 05/18/2015 3:27:52 AM PDT by Moltke
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To: nickcarraway

Not to mention he probably had to take out a loan to pay all the application fees to that many institutions.


47 posted on 05/18/2015 3:36:15 AM PDT by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Fiji Hill
My native language is German, so when I translate something like “President Bush invited Michelle and I to the White House.” into Präsident Bush hatte Michelle und ich in das weiße Haus eingeladen. It sounds like as if someone was scratching with fingernails over a board to make that horrible sound. The correct sentence in German would be "Präsident Bush hatte Michelle und mich in das weiße Haus eingeladen" The correct translation into English is: President Bush invited Michelle and myself to the White House.

I am surprised that he named Michelle first and not himself, most Americans do that.

48 posted on 05/18/2015 4:25:55 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Will88; Betty Jane

“He’ll experience an instant conversion.”

Not a chance. Once you are a Vol you are a Vol for life.


49 posted on 05/18/2015 5:35:48 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Rushmore Rocks

Why wouldn’t “than me.” be correct?


50 posted on 05/18/2015 6:01:00 AM PDT by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: nickcarraway

It depends on what you’re studying. My son just got an engineering degree from a very large University (that happened to beat Alabama in football this year). He didn’t have time to be indoctrinated in one way or the other in anything political... he was too busy learning how to build REAL things.


51 posted on 05/18/2015 6:25:01 AM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: sitetest

Combination of affirmative action admissions and families so rich that another extra $50K in tuition doesn’t phase them?


52 posted on 05/18/2015 6:26:10 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Kaslin

The correct sentence in English would be “President Bush invited Michelle and me to the White House.”


53 posted on 05/18/2015 7:27:05 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill; Kaslin

Correct - self is reflexive, ie the subject and object of the sentence is the same person.

For example, I hurt myself. I can’t hurt yourself, because two people are involved.


54 posted on 05/18/2015 7:54:30 AM PDT by Diapason
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To: Cvengr

the schools generally waive the tuition fee for top performing students.

It’s more about time. If they have to write extra essays, but the Ivies use the Common Ap, so maybe no new essays.


55 posted on 05/18/2015 8:04:54 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Mathews

“than I” is correct. If you were to finish the sentence, it would be “than I AM or WAS” or whichever verb ya want in there. :)


56 posted on 05/18/2015 8:08:10 AM PDT by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: nickcarraway
This shows he wasn’t that smart. He did a lot of work to apply for all those schools. We’re the bragging rights worth it?

It was not about bragging rights but about smart shopping.

He needed to see all the offers so he could compare them to see which was the best fit for him.

57 posted on 05/18/2015 8:09:21 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Mathews

(btw...I use this all the time with my boss. He loves to say, “she thinks she is smarter than me”. *sigh* I say, “than *I*”...and he is in a bad mood for an hour or so.) :)


58 posted on 05/18/2015 8:09:40 AM PDT by ZinGirl (kids in college....can't afford a tagline right now)
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To: Vigilanteman
Dear Vigilanteman,

Your last post is a little incoherent.

College can be very expensive. More expensive than most folks can handle without borrowing money.

For most people, Harvard, Princeton, and Yale are exceptions. These three schools are known to have generous financial aid programs, relatively speaking.

The overall effect of the financial aid programs of these three schools is that average indebtedness for someone who graduates from Harvard is about $12K, total, over four years. Many students graduate debt-free.


sitetest

59 posted on 05/18/2015 8:59:36 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: luckystarmom
Dear luckyestarmom,

Although they use the Common App, each Ivy also requires its own supplemental application. This is especially the case if you're applying for financial aid (which, of course, is a separate issue from application for admission). Even though everyone uses the FAFSA, they all have a separate set of requirements to go along with what's required by the FAFSA. In my memory, Princeton was the worst. Hell.

Harvard requires less supplemental material than some other schools, but allows more, if you want to send it. Washington University at St. Louis is the easiest major university to apply to - a straight Common App, and check the box for fee waiver, and you've applied. But they goose application numbers with heavy marketing and making the process as easy and inexpensive as possible, and then manipulate their admissions and waitlist to boost yield to game the USNWR rankings (although most all schools do this to a degree).


sitetest

60 posted on 05/18/2015 9:15:49 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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