Posted on 05/09/2015 11:42:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
If the government does not like the way that you are raising your kids, they will come in and grab them at any time without giving any warning whatsoever. Of course this is completely and totally unlawful, but it has been happening all over America. The most recent example of this that has made national headlines is particularly egregious. Joe and Nicole Naugler of Breckinridge County, Kentucky just had their 10 children brutally ripped away from them just because the government does not approve of how they are living their lives and how they are educating their young ones. Lets be very clear about this Joe and Nicole had done nothing to violate the law whatsoever. All of their kids were happy, healthy and very intelligent. But because the control freaks running things in Kentucky got wind of their off the grid lifestyle, they have now had all of their children unlawfully abducted from them.
A lot of my readers also lead off the grid lifestyles similar to what the Nauglers had been enjoying. The Nauglers own 26 acres in a remote area of Breckinridge County, and their family has been described as extremely happy. But despite never giving them a single warning or a single indication that anything was ever wrong, Kentucky police raided their home on May 6th. The following is how the raid was described on a website dedicated to this case
On May 6th, 2015, Breckinridge Co. Sheriffs officers came to their home, acting on an anonymous tip, and entered their property and home without a warrant and without probable cause. Nicole was at home with the two oldest children, while Joe was away with the others. When the officers left the home, they attempted to block the access road to the family property. Nicole and the two boys got in their car to leave the family property. The got only a short way down the road before the officers pulled Nicole over.
During this stop, sheriffs deputies took their two oldest boys from Nicoles custody, providing her no justification or documentation to support their action. Nicole was able to contact Joe briefly by telephone, but only for a short period of time, because she needed to use her phone to record the events.
At that point, Nicole had been taken into custody for disorderly conduct (for not passively allowing the Sheriff to take her boys) and resisting arrest. Even though she is 5 months pregnant, she was slammed belly first into the cop car and bruised and scraped on both arms.
And people wonder why there is such an uproar about police brutality in this country
How in the world can a police officer ever justify treating a pregnant woman like that? The police officer that treated Nicole like that should immediately resign. Talk about an utter disgrace. You do not ever treat a pregnant woman like that.
But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.
You can listen to audio of Nicoles shocking arrest right here.
When Joe arrived on the scene, the police continued to act like Gestapo thugs
Joe was able to arrange transportation to meet his wife where the stop had taken place. Joe attempted to get out of the car to speak with the officers and his wife, and to recover the vehicle Nicole had been driving. The Sheriff, with his hand on his sidearm, ordered Joe back into the car. Joe complied with that request. The sheriff informed Joe that he had every intention of making this as difficult as possible for them and that their car would be impounded, despite the fact that Joe was there onsite to recover it.
A friend, who had driven Joe to the location, got out of the car to speak with the Sheriff. She was able to convince the Sheriff to let Joe recover the vehicle. Joe also recovered Nicoles cell phone, which had been recording audio the entire time.
The Sheriff ordered Joe to turn the remaining eight children over to Breckinridge County Sheriffs deputies by 10:00 a.m., and threatened him with felony charges if he does not comply.
Joe did comply with the Sheriffs order, and now their kids have been scattered by CPS among families in four separate counties
As of now, officials have placed the children with four families in four different counties, and as of Friday morning, the parents had not spoken with them. The four families are families that CPS chose families the Nauglers dont know.
Shame on you Kentucky. You are supposed to be better than this.
One of the most disturbing elements of this entire incident is that Child Protective Services never visited the Nauglers a single time and never gave them any indication that anything was wrong. The following comes from Off The Grid News
Child Protective Services never visited the home, said Ellsworth, who believes the arrests took place because of the parents choice of unschooling for their children, and because of their simple way of life that some would call backwards. The familys Facebook page calls it a back to basics life. They have a garden and raise animals. Deputies apparently were concerned about whether the childrens needs were being met, but friends say they personally have no concerns and that the children are blessed to have Joe and Nicole as their parents.
How would you like it if government thugs raided your home and took your children away because they considered your lifestyle to be backwards?
What in the world is happening to this country?
Like I said earlier, what happened to the Nauglers is not an isolated incident. These kinds of things are happening all over the nation. For example, just consider the abuse that one homeschooling family received in New Jersey
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, a WND report highlights how parents were interrogated by a CPS caseworker who questioned Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole, on everything from their sons homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.
Michelle Marchese aggressively demanded to enter the property after asserting Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a proper education. Police subsequently arrived and allowed Marchese to enter the home before conducting a warrantless search.
The Zimmers are now suing the CPS for $60 million in a case before the U.S. District Court in Trenton.
I very much hope that the Zimmers win that case and collect a huge monetary award.
All over the nation, CPS officials are running around acting like little dictators and trampling the law. They need the courts to send them a clear message that this is a nation where the rule of law still applies.
If we do not stand with families like the Nauglers, control freak bureaucrats will continue to harass families that have chosen to live a basic lifestyle all over the nation. So lets stand with them and make this case viral all over the Internet.
And Kentucky, get your act together and send those kids back home. You are supposed to be so much better than this.
I’m not going to back track to the article for I’ve been reading many to try and get the jest of this story...but it’s been ongoing.
Speculation is permissible when we don’t have the whole story...
As for how the Sheriff handled things at this point...they might have some trouble there, I don’t understand why CPS representative wasn’t on site...which had she refused then all that occurred would have been with the authorities rights...but then we don’t know Kentucky Law either.
If a government schooled kid fails maybe he should be **forced** to homeschool!
So?....Give the government's abysmal record on producing literate graduates maybe government teachers and principals should forced to report to their local homeschoolers association.
Loving parents is the key. Two of them.
I don’t have any specific information on how this family lives, but it seems to me a dedication to “unschooling” is quite different indeed from homeschooling.
Do parents have a right to raise their children without any schooling at all? At some point parents not fulfilling their obligations becomes child abuse. I have no idea whether these parents have crossed that line.
OK. I speculate that the neighbors are lying and that the Sheriff is a wannabe Nazi. lol
My trust in the government is admittedly very thin. Whenever there is a dispute between the government and citizens my personal burden of proof for the government’s case is considerably higher than it is for the citizen. That is biased, it’s my bias, and I make no apologies for it.
That is illogical.
I would think if you own 26 acres, you aren’t really poor.
Sue the Government...they (Government) need to be sued. Class action lawsuit. Who’ll be next to have their kids taken?
"Off the grid" does NOT mean "without electricity". Lots of people live in quite luxurious homes that are off the grid, with wind/solar/battery installations for "lectric usage" and propane or natgas (or wood) for heating, and often, propane for refrigerators and freezers. There are many gradations, from very simple systems for lights/computers to very complex for higher energy/square foot than grid-connected.
That's like handing the keys to the head thief - Half of your local high school probably can't meet those standards. If they can't provide basic literacy and numeracy in the public system, what right do they have to skool anyone on how they are doing it?
Meh.
Oh, absolutely; housing people in gubmint housing where they have no stake (never mind ownership; they don’t even pay rent) doesn’t exactly motivate them to maintian or even clean anything. I’ve known teachers in urban districts here in NJ, and the conditions the children live in would never be tolerated for whites or by whites.
True...the government don’t care about those subhumans. Only about people unschooling their kids and being off the grid. They want people controlled.
The way the MSM reports news these days you don’t know the full story until weeks later, if ever.
According to the article the maintenance was supposed to be provided by the property owner so it doesn’t really fall to the residents to pick up the slack they already contractually paid for regardless of included subsidies.
But that wouldn’t really absolve them from raising children in an unhealthy environment which is the point I was trying to make. To support your point.
I understand how that works; in the worst of the worst the owner is the city itself. The personal hygiene, diets, clothing, and study habits of the children themselves wouldn’t be tolerated in an Anglo area. One teacher I know was reprimanded by her principal for asking a welfare sow why her child was coming to school in the winter with no coat; she had civilized expectations of ignorant livestock that knew nothing but breeding for cash.
That certainly means nothing - there are are busybodies everywhere... especially in government.
But then, look at the living conditions of families during the Depression - was even worse. The Libtards need some kind of agenda to exist.
I went to a place just over the hump, on the east side, where the owner of the farm (where I was a guest), took me to their original family homestead - A cabin the size of my living room - wherein their great grandfather and his wife raised their eleven children... Perspective. It can be different...
You state the family lives in teepees. I believe that is plural. The article states the family, all 12, sleep together on one bench. There is a BIG difference between parents and toddlers in one teepee or tent and older kids in other teepees or tents versus all in the same tent. THAT is just plain wrong!
In Western Canada, yes, many lived in sod huts until they established themselves and were able to raise crops. As pioneering families grew wealthier, they added rooms to their houses, adding bedrooms as they had kids.
The characters in this article are nothing but hippies and I think intervention was required. Was it done properly? Definitely not!
Unschooled kids shouldn’t be forced to follow structured educational methods or curricula unless they can be shown to be falling behind a state mandated standard. Public school benchmarks are obviously not a goal any of us should be aiming for but there has to be a process of assessment to even be able to begin to make those kinds of judgments. IMO.
The article did mention cell phones. I suppose that is what they use. I just didn’t see a computer in any of the pics. They do have FB. I just did a friend request and he accepted.
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