Posted on 05/09/2015 11:42:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
If the government does not like the way that you are raising your kids, they will come in and grab them at any time without giving any warning whatsoever. Of course this is completely and totally unlawful, but it has been happening all over America. The most recent example of this that has made national headlines is particularly egregious. Joe and Nicole Naugler of Breckinridge County, Kentucky just had their 10 children brutally ripped away from them just because the government does not approve of how they are living their lives and how they are educating their young ones. Let’s be very clear about this – Joe and Nicole had done nothing to violate the law whatsoever. All of their kids were happy, healthy and very intelligent. But because the control freaks running things in Kentucky got wind of their “off the grid lifestyle”, they have now had all of their children unlawfully abducted from them.
A lot of my readers also lead “off the grid” lifestyles similar to what the Nauglers had been enjoying. The Nauglers own 26 acres in a remote area of Breckinridge County, and their family has been described as “extremely happy”. But despite never giving them a single warning or a single indication that anything was ever wrong, Kentucky police raided their home on May 6th. The following is how the raid was described on a website dedicated to this case…
On May 6th, 2015, Breckinridge Co. Sheriff’s officers came to their home, acting on an anonymous tip, and entered their property and home without a warrant and without probable cause. Nicole was at home with the two oldest children, while Joe was away with the others. When the officers left the home, they attempted to block the access road to the family property. Nicole and the two boys got in their car to leave the family property. The got only a short way down the road before the officers pulled Nicole over.
During this stop, sheriffs deputies took their two oldest boys from Nicole’s custody, providing her no justification or documentation to support their action. Nicole was able to contact Joe briefly by telephone, but only for a short period of time, because she needed to use her phone to record the events.
At that point, Nicole had been taken into custody for disorderly conduct (for not passively allowing the Sheriff to take her boys) and resisting arrest. Even though she is 5 months pregnant, she was slammed belly first into the cop car and bruised and scraped on both arms.
And people wonder why there is such an uproar about police brutality in this country…
How in the world can a police officer ever justify treating a pregnant woman like that? The police officer that treated Nicole like that should immediately resign. Talk about an utter disgrace. You do not ever treat a pregnant woman like that.
But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.
You can listen to audio of Nicole’s shocking arrest right here.
When Joe arrived on the scene, the police continued to act like Gestapo thugs…
Joe was able to arrange transportation to meet his wife where the stop had taken place. Joe attempted to get out of the car to speak with the officers and his wife, and to recover the vehicle Nicole had been driving. The Sheriff, with his hand on his sidearm, ordered Joe back into the car. Joe complied with that request. The sheriff informed Joe that he had every intention of making this as difficult as possible for them and that their car would be impounded, despite the fact that Joe was there onsite to recover it.
A friend, who had driven Joe to the location, got out of the car to speak with the Sheriff. She was able to convince the Sheriff to let Joe recover the vehicle. Joe also recovered Nicole’s cell phone, which had been recording audio the entire time.
The Sheriff ordered Joe to turn the remaining eight children over to Breckinridge County Sheriff’s deputies by 10:00 a.m., and threatened him with felony charges if he does not comply.
Joe did comply with the Sheriff’s order, and now their kids have been scattered by CPS among families in four separate counties…
As of now, officials have placed the children with four families in four different counties, and as of Friday morning, the parents had not spoken with them. The four families are families that CPS chose – families the Nauglers don’t know.
Shame on you Kentucky. You are supposed to be better than this.
One of the most disturbing elements of this entire incident is that Child Protective Services never visited the Nauglers a single time and never gave them any indication that anything was wrong. The following comes from Off The Grid News…
Child Protective Services never visited the home, said Ellsworth, who believes the arrests took place because of the parents’ choice of “unschooling” for their children, and because of their simple way of life that some would call backwards. The family’s Facebook page calls it a “back to basics life.” They have a garden and raise animals. Deputies apparently were concerned about whether the children’s needs were being met, but friends say they personally have no concerns — and that the children are blessed to have Joe and Nicole as their parents.
How would you like it if government thugs raided your home and took your children away because they considered your lifestyle to be “backwards”?
What in the world is happening to this country?
Like I said earlier, what happened to the Nauglers is not an isolated incident. These kinds of things are happening all over the nation. For example, just consider the abuse that one homeschooling family received in New Jersey…
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, a WND report highlights how parents were interrogated by a CPS caseworker who questioned Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole, “on everything from their son’s homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.”
Michelle Marchese aggressively demanded to enter the property after asserting Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a “proper education.” Police subsequently arrived and allowed Marchese to enter the home before conducting a warrantless search.
The Zimmers are now suing the CPS for $60 million in a case before the U.S. District Court in Trenton.
I very much hope that the Zimmers win that case and collect a huge monetary award.
All over the nation, CPS officials are running around acting like little dictators and trampling the law. They need the courts to send them a clear message that this is a nation where the rule of law still applies.
If we do not stand with families like the Nauglers, control freak bureaucrats will continue to harass families that have chosen to live a “basic” lifestyle all over the nation. So let’s stand with them and make this case viral all over the Internet.
And Kentucky, get your act together and send those kids back home. You are supposed to be so much better than this.
So how many families will be disrupted now? Fed’s going to pull out all the kids? Scary.
I know what it is. There was always an advocate of unschool at the home school workshops back when I attended them every year. It is a form of homeschooling and it is not the same thing as not schooling. It is a method of schooling with a bad title.
You state that, “...half the world currently lives...” in one room or tent. It is probably more than half. Do you believe we should live the same way? If so, perhaps you might wish to join DU! They seem to relish changing North America into the third world.
AFA so many preadolescent kids being exposed to internet porn versus their seeing ma and pa getting randy, I prefer the parents take responsibility and dad inform the boys and ma inform the girls, when the time is right, rather than demonstrating it in front of the kids. Knowingly having sex in front of their kids IS a form of pornography and child abuse, not a lot different from their showing internet porn to the kids.
I just can’t place much credibility in what someone posts about another on Facebook. I don’t use Facebook but from what friends who do tell me all kinds of people post the most outrageous accusations to other people’s pages. Many who don’t know the person they’re attacking at all.
Maybe there’s something terrible going on there but I don’t see it in what has been presented.
Now, all of a sudden, it is harmful to children.
I smell an intellectual disconnect.
I don't know what the right decision is, but removing kids from a family should be in a last resort only.
In the 19th century and half of the 20th century young kids in farm households slept in the same bed or the same room with the parents. That doesn’t mean pa is banging ma while they’re in there. That’s just your salacious mind making something of it that you have no evidence of.
If the family is “off the grid”, how did they have a Facebook page?
Looks like camping all year round, to me.
...”Maybe there’s something terrible going on there but I don’t see it in what has been presented”....
Well that this has been ongoing with the family since seemingly 2012 does say something. Especially since there are others in their area who have begun speaking up regarding the family.
I do think just the time the authorities have been trying to handle this is revealing in itself. ...and have stayed with the situation for this amount of time ...tells me there’s something going on more than just what’ we’re reading.
Now the kids are in foster care and see how the rest of the world lives it’s going to be rough for them to return to their former sheds etc.
I’m just saying it doesn’t sound like there is any form of assessment to ensure that unschooled students are making academic progress. If the state cannot verify that these parents are providing adequate instruction or even basic levels of literacy and numeracy. nevermind quality educational outcomes, the family should be given the support and accountability they need to step up their efforts.
I agree, there is an intellectual disconnect in this discussion. Even the most strident evolutionist does not claim that humans have existed for millions of year! They claim modern humans are only in existence for 200,000 years.
If you are a Bible believer, that is reduced to less than 7,000 years. If you are a Bible believer, you will note the story of Ham’s curse because he saw his father Noah, named. It is immoral to knowingly subject your kids to seeing your act of sex. Observing a sexual act can also create a soul tie, the wrong kind of soul tie. They bolster the relationship between a husband and a wife, but such ties with a child are damaging.
The children look happy, healthy and clean in the picture.
That’s what I thought too...unfortunately people surrounding this family have begun speaking out and it’s not looking good for this family IMO....there’s more going on here then meets the eye..for sure.
If there is the older kids will eventually talk.
Whatever, dude.
I missed that. Could you link me to the article that reports that since several articles have now been introduced to this thread? Thank you in advance.
...tells me there’s something going on more than just what’ we’re reading.
That's just speculation at this point. You're free to do it but I'm going to resist the temptation for now. The family claims that the Sheriff didn't have a warrant. I didn't see any refutation of that. If it's true that's a red flag and I'd like to hear the Sheriff's explanation for it.
Nah...this thing with this particular family has been ongoing for some time...which does indicate there’s something that needs to be worked out that isn’t...and the parents continue to be on the defensive. “Protest too much” when simply allowing the CPS to speak with the kids would have prevented all this...they refused.
IMO...the wife is trying to protect the husband ....what’s she going to do with 10 kids by herself?
Y'all don't know what you're talking about. There have ALWAYS been mountain folk living right here just that way. one of my good friends lives year around in Teepees with his wife and four kids and several grand kids.. Best kind of folks there is. If you don't run into him at a potlatch or rondy, you'd never be able to find him again for that year.
I know others that lived for years in tents while they were building their cabins, and I know many, many that are unplugged from the grid, and always have been.
You do our fathers a great injustice calling the pioneer spirit '3rd world'.
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