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Cable execs say Netflix is killing TV ratings
Fortune ^ | 03/11/2015 | Benjamin Snyder

Posted on 03/11/2015 10:37:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Viewership was down in the third and fourth quarters

It might be time for cable to start worrying about online streaming. The Wall Street Journal reported that a drop in TV ratings and viewership can be chalked up to subscription-based streaming services, including Netflix, Hulu and Amazon.

People familiar with the Cabletelevision Advertising Bureau told the newspaper that as much as 40% of TV-rating declines in the third and fourth quarters were attributable to streaming services. The news comes as TV viewing has declined by an estimated 10% from a year previously in the third quarter, and by 9% for the fourth quarter year-over-year, according to the Journal, citing Nielsen data.

“We believe the U.S. television industry is entering a period of prolonged structural decline, caused by a migration of viewers from ad-supported platforms to non-ad-supported or less-ad-supported platforms,” according to Sanford C. Bernstein analyst Todd Juenger in a March 9 statement.

According to the Journal, Scripps Networks Interactive chief revenue officer Steve Gigliotti said that working with Netflix once “sounded like a good idea, but “now there are some serious misgivings about it.”

Netflix reported fourth quarter earnings in January, posting big gains. The company reportedly finished 2014 with a 26% gain in revenue in the year’s last quarter, while over four million people subscribed. Netflix notched $1.48 billion in revenue during the quarter, up from $1.18 billion last year. Profits also rose 72% year-over-year for the fourth quarter to $83.4 million, or $1.38 per share.

Meanwhile, HBO announced a streaming service that will begin as an exclusive partnership with Apple. Plans were unveiled at a March 9 event, featuring the Apple Watch. While HBO Go will cost $14.99 per month and require access to an Apple TV, Netflix costs $8.99. During the event, Apple also announced it’d be reducing the price of the Apple TV to $69 from $99.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: apple; cabletv; hbo; lgbtfallout; netflix
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To: Mad Dawgg
I tried to get just HBO added to my existing cable line-up, and in order for me to do that, I'd need to get their whole home DVR package, which included all the premium channels. I already have their cable, internet and phone package, and I have their cable box/DVR in my living room. I pay $204 a month for it all. I told them I live in a lousy two-bedroom apartment, and don't watch TV anywhere else but my living room. I have a cable box in my spare bedroom so that people can watch TV in there when they come to visit, but I don't need the whole house DVR. The woman I talked to started out giving me one low rate for everything, then by the time she refigured it all, it ended up being more than what I already pay. I told her I'd go without.

There used to be a time when you could get 1 or more premium channels added, but not any more. You have to get the whole package, or you get nothing. And besides, I've had plenty of instances over the years where the one DVR I've got either hasn't recorded the program I'd set it for (says channel not available), the program I recorded is all pixelated, and can't be viewed, or their system freezes while I'm recording, and I have to reboot the box, and lose the full recording. So why would I want to double my displeasure and have whole house DVR, and pay more for it.

I don't watch any live TV. Everything I view is recorded so I can fast-forward through the commercials.

101 posted on 03/11/2015 11:47:54 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’d rather watch reruns of Murder She Wrote on Netflix then watch all the new crap that’s on T.V. today.


102 posted on 03/11/2015 11:48:57 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Philippians 2:10)
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To: BunnySlippers

I’ve got a media server on which I store TV programs/series I’ve downloaded from UK websites. I use the Plex server application via my Roku, and get to watch a lot of interesting historical documentaries, not to mention the great dramas and crime/mystery programs the Brits, Australians, New Zealanders produce. My oldest son set it all up for me as I am technically challenged, so I wouldn’t be able to tell anyone else how to do it.


103 posted on 03/11/2015 11:54:10 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Nothing at all except to trick people who own a roku into buying an Apple.

Not really. HBO GO has had a ROKU app for years. HBO GO contains the entire HBO catalog. You do, currently, have to sign in via your cable/satellite provider. That will likely change if the HBO streaming shows promise.
104 posted on 03/11/2015 11:55:26 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
a drop in TV ratings and viewership can be chalked up to subscription-based streaming services, including Netflix, Hulu and Amazon.

I blame it more on the lack of quality programming that is being offered at the time the typical Netflixer, Hulu or Amazonian watch their TV's........

So what do these outlets offer, just movies? I'm not a typical movie guy and any that I watch are on DVD's that I get from the library for free even tho I may have to wait a month or two before I can pick one up that I ordered.

105 posted on 03/11/2015 11:56:41 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Uncle Sy: "Beavers are like Ninjas, they only come out at night and they're hard to find")
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Yes there is trough a variety of devices including many dvd players that are capable of streaming


106 posted on 03/11/2015 12:02:57 PM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I haven’t had cable or a tv signal in a very long time. Netflix didn’t exist back then had nothing to do with it.


107 posted on 03/11/2015 12:03:01 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Thanks Mr. Jeeves

Just as good an answer on netflix as I would expect from the “ask mr jeeves” search engine. :)


108 posted on 03/11/2015 12:03:57 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

More and more people are imagining TV without 15 minute commercials every 3 minutes.


109 posted on 03/11/2015 12:04:11 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

I’m looking at a tuner card and antenna since ME-TV runs NBC Mystery Movies and that TWC box defies every attempt at disabling power saving.

Hauppauge seems to make a good card. Never tried one.


110 posted on 03/11/2015 12:04:34 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: All

poor content is killing ratings. Even original ideas packaged in the same focus grouped delivery (two or three serious characters surrounded by a cast misfits including a homosexual and a representative of the group that the democrats want to victimize) will never make it.
It’s all the same crap which is why we don’t participate.


111 posted on 03/11/2015 12:08:15 PM PDT by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Eaker

TV, as we know it ...


112 posted on 03/11/2015 12:09:23 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: mass55th

Got it.

I actually meant TV as it has been all these years with dreaded sitcoms.

I agree, some of the content is terrific.


113 posted on 03/11/2015 12:10:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The movie selection on Netflix is not that good. Tons and Tons of 1 star movies you’ve never heard about.

But the old TV selection is good - original Star Trek, Farscape, Star Trek spin offs, Enterprise, etc, etc.


114 posted on 03/11/2015 12:12:00 PM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Is there a way to get rid of cable and just do Netflix over Wi-Fi?

We got rid of dish network and signed up for netflix and amazon prime. In my den, I have a Roku 3. It is wi-fi enabled. (Roku 2 is cheaper, but needs to be wired to the ethernet connection.) Our XBox 360 has a netflix and amazon application, as does the Wii. They both are wi-fi connected.

The Roku 3's remote is a bluetooth receiver for the audio too. You can plug your earphones into it and watch TV without disturbing others. Very cool.

115 posted on 03/11/2015 12:20:18 PM PDT by glock rocks (Whenever I find myself in a conundrum, I ask myself: What would Elvis do?)
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To: BunnySlippers
"I agree, some of the content is terrific."

I've never been a fan of sitcoms...never watched them. It's also gotten to the point where I hate to start watching a program, because you never know how long it will last. They don't bother showing total series anymore. They pull them by the third or fourth episode. Some of them are down-right stinky from the get-go, which makes you wonder why they even bothered to air them to begin with. I tried watching "Allegiance." I gave it two episodes, and then dropped it. Glad I didn't waste any more time on it as they cancelled it after the 4th episode.

116 posted on 03/11/2015 12:21:02 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

I watch almost everything on my iPad now. I have an adapter so I can plug it into the tv if I want. I can’t stand watching regular tv now because of the commercials. Besides I have a site that uploads everything as soon as it plays east coast time and I am on the west coast so I still get to start watching it 30 mins before it actually comes on here......and 0 commercials.


117 posted on 03/11/2015 12:28:24 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Yes, that is what I do. No cable out here in the boonies. Have DSL and no issues except occassional blips when the power goes out...I stream Netflix from WIFI.


118 posted on 03/11/2015 12:29:17 PM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary & remove the son of a kenyan mooslimb)
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To: TomGuy
Yeah, I'm stuck between the Samsung blu-Ray and the Internet provider. Each blames the other but in the meantime, it's frustrating to attempt to watch it. Funny thing is, the Sony blu-Ray in the bedroom doesn't have the problem. I tend to think it's the Samsung...they swear it's not.
119 posted on 03/11/2015 12:30:34 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Oh and I should add I have a Wii that streams Netflix from the WIFI.


120 posted on 03/11/2015 12:32:30 PM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary & remove the son of a kenyan mooslimb)
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