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Rick Santorum sounds off on ‘bomb throwers’ Rand Paul, Ted Cruz
Washington Times ^ | January 12, 2015 | David Sherfinski

Posted on 01/12/2015 5:54:35 AM PST by SoConPubbie

Former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania threw a few elbows at several potential rivals for the 2016 GOP presidential nomination, calling possible contenders Sens. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas “bomb throwers” with little experience.

“Do we really want someone with this little experience?” Mr. Santorum said, referring to Mr. Paul, Mr. Cruz and Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, The New York Times reported. “And the only experience they have basically — not Rubio, but Cruz and Paul because I don’t think Rubio is going to go — is bomb throwing? Do we really want somebody who’s a bomb thrower, with no track record of any accomplishments?”

Doug Stafford, a senior adviser to Mr. Paul, told the paper they would pass on responding to the “alleged wisdom” of someone who lost re-election in 2006 by 18 points and who “has spent the time since then trying to convince people to elect him to an even higher office than the one he was booted out of.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; cruz; election2016; pennsylvania; ricksantorum; santorum; tedcruz; texas
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To: sickoflibs; Finny; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Clemenza; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy

” We better get better alternatives than them or 2016 will be another disaster, “

The GOP Establishment doesn’t want to win, unless they can get a Jeb Bush/ Romney type in there. Otherwise, they are happy to get half the pork, with no responsibility.


181 posted on 01/14/2015 7:37:41 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; GOPsterinMA; NFHale

” The feds have a program studying why lesbians tend to be fat, “

This one is easy. They need to maintain their “fighting weight”, so they can beat up heterosexual men.


182 posted on 01/14/2015 7:40:36 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Finny
Just read your 121. An excellent analysis. "Fluff" is an apt term for the verbal side of Santorum that seeks to pontificate on what he sees as the moral failures of those who recognize his lack of discipline in analyzing areas of moral responsibility.

Frankly, I think your apt analysis would be over Rick's level of comprehension. You clearly understand concepts that have never bothered Santorum.

William Flax

183 posted on 01/14/2015 7:41:05 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The Santorum supporters STILL haven’t figured out that Rick is a big gov weenie who is socially conservative.

I would offer a suggested correction:

The Santorum supporters STILL haven’t figured out that Rick is a big gov weenie who pretends to be socially conservative.

Santorum lacks the essential moral compass to recognize that a preeminent social value goes to understanding who hs responsibility for what. He, like the mainstream Leftists who seek to use central Governmental power to force uniformity on the public, would solve "social" problems in the same manner as Leftists seek to solve economic problems.

He is at best an eccentric Leftist, who gives endless lip service to certain Conservative social values; while carefully avoiding the preeminent Conservative social value, which is a recognition of the moral responsibilities of individuals--both as individuals & as members of local communities, sovereign States, etc..

His whole simplistic, half-baked approach, is a diversion from contructive approaches to the actual problems of our times. Indeed, his approach is one of those actual problems.

William Flax

184 posted on 01/14/2015 8:04:56 AM PST by Ohioan
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To: fieldmarshaldj

pusillanimous pussy you.


185 posted on 01/14/2015 9:11:25 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: SoConPubbie

Any pub that calls Cruz a bomb thrower is a RINO. It is an easy way to separate the sheep from the goats.


186 posted on 01/14/2015 9:14:10 AM PST by plain talk
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; GOPsterinMA; stephenjohnbanker

RE:”...studying why lesbians tend to be fat...”

I ain’t touching THAT line with a ten-foot pole...


187 posted on 01/14/2015 9:17:43 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

Yeah, leave it alone : )


188 posted on 01/14/2015 9:23:50 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; GOPsterinMA; Impy

RE Leave it alone:

Maybe I’ll just.... “Leave it to Beaver”...

:^)


189 posted on 01/14/2015 9:29:19 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

* GROAN *


190 posted on 01/14/2015 9:35:37 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I gots ta be’s me....


191 posted on 01/14/2015 9:40:38 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

I just gotta pee

I just gotta pee


192 posted on 01/14/2015 9:43:51 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Gets to ya on a deep down visceral level, huh!?! haha!


193 posted on 01/14/2015 9:47:11 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

: )


194 posted on 01/14/2015 9:50:20 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: stephenjohnbanker; sickoflibs; Finny; Impy; C. Edmund Wright

I’m no chess grandmaster. Yet, I’ve long noticed that the liberal arts folks who’ve never touched a chess board think differently.

Concept#1: to win the game, you must weaken your opponent, not simply promote your own pieces. Small victories are crucial, impose losses on your opponent and they accumulate, even if it means sacrificing one of your own pieces.

A. In the POTUS primaries, it is largely meaningless to discuss alternative candidates as long as it is clear that the front-runner is coasting to victory after victory on his way to the nomination.

B. Before the “party membership” gets a chance to decide who their preferred nominee is ... this frontrunner must be defeated. Only then is the contest opened up to a legitimate competition among alternatives. First task: defeat the frontrunner!

example: Bob Dole: lost Alaska, skipped LA, won IA 26 to 23, lost NH 27 to 26, 2nd in DEL, 2nd in AZ. He recovered to be nominated. It was very close to knocking Dole out of the race, but not enough. The opposition was too split up to realize that job #1 was to bury Dole.

Here are Romney’s defeats in 2008 and 2012.
2008 Iowa, 2nd to Huckabee
2008 NH, 2nd to McCain
lost FLA. knocked out soon after.

2012, tie in IA, lost western NH, but swept the rest of state, lost SC to NEWT, lost CO MO MN to RS, tie in Maine with Paul. That was close to damaging MITT, but not nearly enough.

C. FOR 2016, the bottom line is: MITT & BUSH MUST LOSE IA NH SC FLA. Any candidate that can do that in one of those state, I’m for it. If Walker & Cruz do not compete in NH, there is no sense supporting them there! If somebody cannot win SC, they are useless to our cause there! This is a state-by-state contest.

D. If this sites turns into Cruz & Walker headquarters, I will hafta ask, “what state?” If they write off NH & ME that leaves Rand Paul as the only alternative there.

E. The grassroots of Lincoln County Maine participated in a meaningful manner. They organized, got their voters to the caucus ... and elected a slate of delegates for RS, Newt and RonPaul: Mitt got only about 25% of the delegates. That’s a meaningful event as opposed to the pundits on the web who go on and on in the ether, but never land in a particular spot on the ground.

“Metacognitive skills are important in chess. Children can review their games to see what mistakes have been made. In this way, students can improve their strategy and fine-tune their critical thinking skills.”
http://lessonplanspage.com/mathchessproblemsolving28-htm/

Perhaps one of you wordsmiths can put this idea into an articulate explanation.


195 posted on 01/14/2015 12:37:11 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (-They will believe in hell when they get there. St. Pio)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Let me tell you the only primary in 2012 with a motivated voter base and a huge turn out.......SC....and it was won by a guy who never even so much as let out a little peep about the other Republicans.........

This “weaken your opponent “crap doesn’t apply - because in a primary season, the real opponent is the other side - NOT the other players on your team. The best way to win is to fight the other team better than anyone else on your team is fighting the other team.

Sadly Newt forgot that after SC. It was down hill from there, for Newt, and for turnouts in every single state.....down down down. There was only one real primary last time - and none of those idiots figured it out.


196 posted on 01/14/2015 1:23:31 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Impy

Big Picture people are interested in the big picture ... but not all of us are involved in Presidential politics at some high level.

The successes are built brick by brick. Many campaigns fail because they wouldn’t do the nuts and bolts. Some campaigns excel at the nuts and bolts and still fail.

My original point about 2012 was that some conservatives failed to support Newt in FLA and some failed to support RS in OH and ILL and WISC. Mitt won those states, making him unstoppable.

Why did Newt get 8% in N Dakota and RS won with 40%? Cuz Newt is a big picture guy who HIRED big picture staffers who didn’t believe in nuts and bolts.

Newt showed up in NH with his grand ideas, played to the cameras, and hired people with the same mindset ... and they forget that they needed real votes from real New Hampshire-ites.

Huntsman got the concept, hired competent people who did all the ground work. I wandered into a Huntsman event in the hamlet of Washington in western NH. Great event, until the candidate got up and had nothing to say except “I’ve got the best wife, great kids, ain’t America wonderful? Thanks for inviting me to your cute, little town.” (His primary day numbers in that town then lagged behind his countywide percentage.)

http://news.yahoo.com/years-eve-parties-huntsman-across-nh-150127933.html

The moral of the story: incompetence is not a virtue even if you’re the candidate with the best message and the best resume.


197 posted on 01/14/2015 3:39:01 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (-They will believe in hell when they get there. St. Pio)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
. I was in that Super PAC, and proud to say that I was the only consultant to say NO NO NO WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING.

Good on you, Mr. Wright. That was a deadly blunder by his campaign.

198 posted on 01/14/2015 3:53:00 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

North Dakota? Really? I bet Newt had more total votes in some SC Counties than every candidate did in N Dakota did combined.

Pleeeeeeze


199 posted on 01/14/2015 4:17:54 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: Impy

To me, and I to you I’m sure, it was a no brainer. I told ‘em you’re gonna bring a hellstorm of derision from Rush, Levin, Hannity, etc for this.....and we’ll deserve it.

And I told them there is no way to win a GOP nomination running against all of talk radio.


200 posted on 01/14/2015 4:21:30 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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