vote in federal elections. Nothing in the game, why should you?
to get a job over 50? ..really tried, until all saving/retirement funds were gone
voting is all, i have left.
Posted on 01/09/2015 1:14:34 PM PST by dontreadthis
Edited on 01/09/2015 2:38:17 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Article VYou can bet there will be a fight as we get closer to a Convention of States. Check it out:The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
Rep. Steve Stivers’ (R-OH) amendment to the House Rules passed by a vote on the House Floor this week, according to a press release published by Rep. Stivers’ office. The rule will provide a system with which to track, count, and organize Article V applications to Congress.
“I am pleased my colleagues supported my addition to the House Rules this week,” Stivers said. “I believe a Balanced Budget Amendment is the only way to stop out-of-control government spending. I hope the passage of this rule will put us one step closer to fiscal responsibility and the inclusion of the BBA in the United States Constitution.”
Rep. Stivers’ press release went on to explain the rule in detail:
“Specifically, the rule creates a process for the intake of the petitions through the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee and gives the Clerk’s Office the responsibility of making the petitions electronically available and organized by the subject, state of origin and year of receipt. This will allow Congress, as well as the American people, to better track the progress of specific Article V efforts. Prior to Stivers’ rule update, no formal process for cataloging the petitions existed.”
article v ping
Hmmm
I still like Warren Buffet’s idea: If spending exceeds revenues in any year by 3%, those sitting members of Congress cannot seek reelection.
To that, I’d add:
1. If you don’t pay federal income taxes, you don’t get to vote in federal elections. Nothing in the game, why should you? It might reduce the need to use my tax dollars to buy cell phones for deadbeats.
2. Congress cannot exempt itself from any law it passes.
3. Throw away the IRS Code and replace it with a flat 17% tax on income...no deductions, same rate for corporations and individuals. Yeah, I know it won’t happen, but it would be a hell of a lot better than the crap we have now.
There should be ZERO taxes on incomes. Our founding fathers knew why.
Article V ping.
The constitution has no requirement for petitions to be on the same subject.
Enough petitions have been filed already.
The congress is derelict in their duties.
Any tax on income is slavery.
Period.
Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.
I don't think that's true. Charles Beard, in his An Economic Interpretation of the Constitution states that it is the duty of gov't to: 1) provide for the protection of property rights, and 2) provide social overhead capital. The first means a legal system, a standing military, and police. The second refers to those things society deems necessary but will not be provided by a free market, such as a legal system, a means to deal with foreign gov'ts, public roads, etc. Taxes are the way to fund those efforts.
The types of taxes should be based on either 1) ability to pay, or 2) benefits received. Income taxes are common to the first, and gasoline taxes for roads the second.
Obviously, you have a better idea for funding the gov't. What is it?
true that.
how did this become the meme?
“I don’t think that’s true. “
You’ll notice it took until the socialists in 1913 to get an income tax. They also put in a fiat currency and an illegal federal reserve.
Income tax is slavery. There is nothing voluntary about it. It is also Taxation without Representation.
Fair Tax.
Tax consumption not productivity.
” If you don’t pay federal income taxes, you don’t get to vote in federal elections. “
How about getting the number of votes proportioned to the income taxes you pay.
Article V is the key.
Of course, for how to manage a safety net for the truly disabled, see Jefferson's comments on Welfare In Newly Independent Virginia.
William Flax
If we get this you can bet they will schedule a one-day convention in Nome, Alaska. On Christmas.
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