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NY Times: 'There Can Never Be A Justification For Any Lethal Assault On An Unarmed Man'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/05/2014 5:58:11 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

There is some good debate and conversation happening in the wake of the Michael Brown and Eric Garner cases. But there is also plenty of nonsense. Consider this gem from the New York Times editorial of this morning about police arrests: "there can never be a justification for any lethal assault on an unarmed man." How absurd.

In Ferguson, there is evidence that Michael Brown was attempting to wrest the officer's gun away. Should Darren Wilson have waited until Brown was successful before defending himself? Whatever the facts from Staten Island, if a single officer finds himself in a struggle with a suspect the size of Eric Garner, is he not entitled to fight for his own life?

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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Let an unarmed man who is about 6’5” break into one of these idiots houses and begin to threaten their spouse and their story changes.


61 posted on 12/05/2014 7:38:03 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Self defense is always an appropriate justification for deadly force, including the use of firearms. When an “unarmed” man attacks a smaller man or a woman, or one with less training and experience, the victim of the attack may use deadly force if a reasonable person would believe there was a danger of death or of serious bodily harm. I always prefer that the thug end up dead, since that protects future victims from a known violent predator, although the person exercising force may legally only “stop the threat”.


62 posted on 12/05/2014 7:39:35 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Daveinyork
What’s the point of arming officers if they can’t use their weapons when someone is resisting arrest?

Officers have side arms for self-protection, not taking down those resisting arrest. Look it up, this is true and proper.

People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of their peers. Police do not have the authority to perform summary executions. This is a very important provision in the Constitution. You do support the Constitution, don't you?

63 posted on 12/05/2014 7:39:46 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Old Sarge

My response on NewsBusters:

Really, now? I’m 63 and I sure can’t take a punch the way I used to. So I have a simple rule that even thugs and liberals can understand: assault me or my wife and I will kill you. Without mercy, hesitation or remorse. I possess the means, the training and the will to do so.

It’s a simple calculus: my life or my wife’s life versus that of the violent thug who wishes to harm either of us.

Addendum: like me, my wife is always armed - if I should go down in her defense, she’ll finish what I started.


64 posted on 12/05/2014 7:43:32 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

So now people are obligated to take a beating which could lead to their death?


65 posted on 12/05/2014 8:02:17 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Faced with attack from a couple of Pelican Bay “yard monsters” it would be nice to have a piece.


66 posted on 12/05/2014 8:02:38 AM PST by Mike Darancette (AGW-e is the climate "Domino Theory")
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To: mrsmel

According to the NY Slimes, a 100 lb woman is now supposed to passively accept being violently assaulted, raped, and murdered if her assailant doesn’t have a weapon.


67 posted on 12/05/2014 8:04:42 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Old Sarge

Oh, you are just too old. Those are just kids having a little fun. /sarc


68 posted on 12/05/2014 8:07:00 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

‘There Can Never Be A Justification For Any Lethal Assault On An Unarmed Man’
And how many reports has the NYT done on Chicago murders?.


69 posted on 12/05/2014 8:26:20 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Definition:

New York Times (pronounced: noo'yo'rk-teymz)

  1. The state of mind of total psychosis, esp. as regards news reporting and political commentary.
  2. To be clinically insane, yet to be entrusted with the delivery of news copy.
  3. The act of seeing racism in all matters, regardless of actual presence.
  4. To be a spokesperson for any Democrat politician.

(ex. "Did you see that reporter? He went all New York Times on that person!")

(syn: insanity, madness, moonbattery, bias, unhinged)
(ant: sane, unbiased, sober)

70 posted on 12/05/2014 8:29:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (It's insanity to support those who hate us, no matter they call themselves Democrats or Republicans.)
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To: Straight Vermonter; KeyLargo

Good photo. KeyLargo, does that look like a choke to you?


71 posted on 12/05/2014 8:35:53 AM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: Noumenon

72 posted on 12/05/2014 8:41:43 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Daveinyork

If the left can’t force complete disarmament upon citizens yet (though they’ll never stop trying), they can at least make it almost intolerable for citizens who may be required to use a gun in self-defense, and the same principle for LE.


73 posted on 12/05/2014 8:55:01 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

And for that matter, if they really believe in this principle, why are they telling us (American citizens) first? They should be telling their usurper-in-chief, about his drone attacks.


74 posted on 12/05/2014 8:57:11 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: depressed in 06

According to the Second City Cop blog, he died an hour later of a heart attack, anyway. Not from any hold. And the whole time he was claiming to be out of breath, he was repeatedly shouting “I can”t breathe”.


75 posted on 12/05/2014 9:00:52 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

The fastest round-house kick in the business except for Lew “Sugar Foot” Wallace. Even Bruce Lee couldn’t spin as fast.


76 posted on 12/05/2014 9:17:45 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: wbarmy
The fastest round-house kick in the business except for Lew “Sugar Foot” Wallace.

Did you mean Bill "Superfoot" Wallace? Or was there actually a "Sugarfoot" Wallace?

77 posted on 12/05/2014 9:42:57 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

Nope, age and years of not thinking about that ruined my memory.

Bill “Superfoot” Wallace is correct.


78 posted on 12/05/2014 10:20:24 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: samtheman

that’s the way I read it.


79 posted on 12/05/2014 11:12:38 AM PST by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

A gun is the great equalizer between thugs like Michael Brown and women. There is plenty of reason to use deadly force against a violent unarmed thug as occurred in the Brown case.


80 posted on 12/05/2014 12:38:41 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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