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Falling inflation a worry for Europe but also the world
Reuters ^ | November 23, 2014 | Ross Finley

Posted on 11/23/2014 6:55:14 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

(Reuters) - European Central Bank President Mario Draghi has moved closer to launching sovereign debt purchases and data this week will show just how dangerously low inflation has fallen in the $13 trillion euro zone economy.

A sickly Europe has held back global economic growth for years, and now it is contributing significantly to powerful forces already dragging down inflation across the globe.

A spectacular drop in crude oil prices over the past month will be the center of discussion when ministers from the world's top oil exporters meets in Vienna on Friday.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; debt; debtpurchases; deflation; ecb; economy; euro; europe; inflation; mariodraghi; monetarypolicy; money; qe
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1 posted on 11/23/2014 6:55:14 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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Falling inflation a worry for Europe but also the world

PING!

2 posted on 11/23/2014 6:56:31 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
How are debtors ever to survive?

What if no one wanted to take on debt?

3 posted on 11/23/2014 7:03:29 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I sure wish it wasn't called "The Law of Supply and Demand".

If it was just "The Theory of Supply and Demand" then maybe we could so something about changing it.

4 posted on 11/23/2014 7:04:02 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“dangerously low inflation”

What WOULD we do if the money we have in our pocket wasn’t worth less next year.


5 posted on 11/23/2014 7:05:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Paladin2

Take a look at Japan to see how that works. They’re on something like Year 25 of their “Lost Decade,” aren’t they?


6 posted on 11/23/2014 7:07:58 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: Paladin2

Inflation between 1800 and 1912 was -40%. Since the Federal Reserve was founded the dollar has been inflated 2600%.


7 posted on 11/23/2014 7:09:07 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The concern is the natijnal debts. If money is worth more, debts become a greater proportion of the budgets. It makes it harder to pay down debt.


8 posted on 11/23/2014 7:09:47 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

To make matters worse, violent crime is also down.


9 posted on 11/23/2014 7:11:01 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Stability seems to be worth something. I’d go for a target of 1% deflation/annum.


10 posted on 11/23/2014 7:11:28 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Maybe we can get Obama to sign an EO repealing the Law of Supply and Demand.


11 posted on 11/23/2014 7:13:03 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Japan has demographic problems too. Also not much physical natural resources. Perhaps too much gov’t control. But no immigration issues.....


12 posted on 11/23/2014 7:13:04 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So inflation is good? Just so we know what inflation is, let us define it.

First, what it is not. Inflation is not an increase in the price of goods and services.

Secondly, the correct definition of inflation is the following. Inflation is an increase in the money supply, period. An increase in the money supply by private central banks printing fiat currency such as dollars, euros, etc. An increase in the money supply causes prices to rise because of more money chasing fewer goods. When there is no increase in productivity, prices rise due to scarcity as more money is chasing fewer goods. Just look at Venezuela.

So now they are telling us there is no inflation and that is bad. But when there is inflation, that is also bad. They can have it both ways? Sure, that is what the banks and governments want.

Let us look at oil; the price has dropped because of increased production. The same amount of money is chasing more goods so prices drop. So ladies and gentlemen, there you have it, the real definition of inflation. Supply and demand, Adam Smith had it right.


13 posted on 11/23/2014 7:18:11 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Paladin2

I’d go for 0 percent inflation myself. A dollar in 10 years would be worth what a dollar is right now.


14 posted on 11/23/2014 7:21:40 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“So now they are telling us there is no inflation and that is bad. But when there is inflation, that is also bad. They can have it both ways? Sure, that is what the banks and governments want.”

The great danger the world faces now is deflation. When it comes, governments and people will pray for inflation.


15 posted on 11/23/2014 7:23:57 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Nonsense. People will pray for government to get out of the way, lower taxes, decrease the size and spending of government, and get out of their way. How did the United States exist before 1913 and the creation of the “Federal Reserve?” It did very well for 137 years. Now in just over a hundred years, the country is bankrupt. Happy about that?
16 posted on 11/23/2014 7:31:15 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Paladin2

The demographic problem is exactly what has put Japan where it is. That what drives a deflationary trend.


17 posted on 11/23/2014 7:33:21 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("The ship be sinking.")
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To: Fungi
If the money supply is being increased and prices are not, then money is being hoarded or being siphoned off somewhere else.

There are an increasing number of stories of gold being hoarded.

Maybe the fiat currency is being used to purchase even more worthless pieces of paper that we often refer to as stock certificates.

But when those stock certificates are shown to be about as valuable as tulip bulbs...

18 posted on 11/23/2014 7:44:42 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Zer0 is a good target, but they always fail on the + side. It multiplies up after a while.....


19 posted on 11/23/2014 7:46:02 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A spectacular drop in crude oil prices over the past month will be the center of discussion when ministers from the world’s top oil exporters meets in Vienna on Friday.
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how stupid are these guys. falling oil prices are exactly what they do need.


20 posted on 11/23/2014 7:58:11 PM PST by ckilmer (q)
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