Posted on 10/25/2014 7:57:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz
Whenever one looks at the demographics of the population of America, and how it is changing, it always looks very daunting for conservatives.
I agree. But I'd like to suggest a strategic solution that is very viable.
The Hispanic demographic is ripe for a conservative takeover.
The Hispanic population is a largely-Christian and very religious demographic. They are hard-working, very family-oriented, and tend to be moral. There are, of course, exceptions that disprove this rule, but I am speaking of the big-picture Hispanic population. They tend to have fled from countries that embrace socialism and police-state tactics on the part of the government. In Atlanta, Georgia, I run into a lot of Hispanics, and they are mostly as I describe. They seem to be 'natural conservatives', and if we explain it to them, we may bring them to our side.
These factors lend themselves very well to how we conservatives think. At the moment, the Democrats seem to be winning them over. If we get motivated and directly address them, one-on-one or especially in large groups, we may just capture this group for our own.
It will take a great deal of motivation and a very large effort, but I would like us to consider this as a strategic plan of action. It would require the development of a curriculum that explains America (as it once was) and how we became great. The curriculum would need to explore their country's socialism, and why they lived in the squalor from which they fled. It would need to educate them on the founding of our country, and explain who the founders were -- and how they relate to the current Hispanic situation.
Then, when a curriculum is developed, we would need to organize meetings, perhaps funded by deep-pocket conservative icons, replete with a reasonable give-away to lure them there. We'd need fluent Spanish speakers to explain the curriculum to them.
Obama will issue an Executive Order Amnesty later in 2014, illegally, of course. Imagine, however, if it turned out to be the Liberal, Communist and Democrat Party's undoing.
This is a sound strategic move. We need to start the process.
> The Hispanic vote is generally centered in lower socio-econonmic circumstances
True with any immigrant population... but it is the next generation that needs targeting... the children of those immigrants.
“Id like to know the percentage of that 73% who gained citizenship through one of the previous amnesties. Im certain a very large portion of that 64% were born on US soil from those who received amnesty.”
What difference does it make? They are citizens and can vote.
Republicans need more votes. Take them where you can get them.
Wasting time trying to rule out pursuit of votes, is a losers game.
I moved back to California from Colorado as a young child. My first memories are of fellow first graders, but Hispanic ones. Maybe children of the illegal immigrants of the 1950s.
Now 60 years later, I still know a few of them. They are grandparents.
All across the Southwest this is the case, I believe. If one resides in a location with fewer and more recent influx of Hispanics, they may not grasp how many Americans are Hispanic or closely connected to them.
I have a cousin through marriage, who is 1/2 Hispanic. His father was career Air Force, and traced his ancestry to colonial Spanish California in the early 1800s.
My father served under USMC General Del Valle, on Okinawa.
The Hispanics were the first settlers in North America, after the Indians and Vikings.
And how have they been voting?
Point being we are on the verge of awarding legal status to about another 10 million. Maybe some reflection is in order.
some say 34 million
One man disagreed. Marcus Aurelius Hanna was the Republican chair of Ohio who had just been made chairman of the Republican National Committee in Washington. Marc Hanna understood that the country was rapidly industrializing, the farms were emptying into the cities, and the Democratic Partys base in the cities was based on immigrants. Immigration was proceeding at full speed, a situation that would remain until the Simpson Act closed those doors in 1924.
The problem, as Hanna saw it, was that the Populists were an agrarian party opposed to immigration. In the South, the Populists had spearheaded the Jim Crow laws, and many Populists wanted to send immigrants back to their origination points in Europe and Asia. While the Populists were economic radicals in favor of nationalizing the railroads and vast swaths of American industry, they were social conservatives hooked on biblical fundamentalism and culturally out of step with the cities.
This is where Hanna saw an opportunity. By turning their party hostile to immigrants and immigration, the Democrats would have to give up their urban base built on immigrants.
Marc Hanna sent Republican organizers who spoke the native language of the immigrants into the cities to create Italian-American, German-American, Polish-American and Lithuanian-American Republican clubs. Immigrants fresh off the boat were recruited into these clubs even though they could not vote. These clubs educated immigrants in both American and Republican principles, and they shepherded these immigrants all the way through the naturalization process to the voting booth. Immigrants were happy to be greeted by people speaking their native tongue and welcoming them into the American political process. My paternal grandfather was recruited right off the boat from Sicily in 1908 into the Italian-American Republican Club of Philadelphia, and as a result his family remained Republicans even through the Great Depression.
Hannas ploy worked. William McKinley won a landslide victory over Bryan in 1896 by winning the cities. The new Republican coalition built by Hanna held on until the Great Depression crushed it in 1932 except for the party split that elected Wilson twice.
Recruiting Hispanics may be a very good idea, but it has to be done right.
I know.
I’m guessing that’s assuming most make it to citizenship, with chain migration, plus children born.
I agree. I live in a little “barrio”; during the nine years that we’ve been here the area has gradually become almost entirely Hispanic. I previously lived in an adjacent neighborhood that was almost all Black - people who had left the big city for home ownership in the suburbs. Over the last twenty years, that neighborhood too has become almost all Hispanic.
These people are overwhelmingly family-oriented and religious; the women are sweet and very good mothers and the men very courteous. I have never encountered the “us versus them” attitude that one poster mentioned.
Most are working for small businesses, and many own their own businesses. There are some extremely accomplished craftsmen among them, and they take advantage of opportunity. Many have a very entrepreneurial spirit, and I, too, believe that traditional American values are natural to these folks.
The problem IS education. We now see young people whose families have been here for many generations, coming out of school without even a respectable minimum of knowledge of American history, or of the values and principles our founding documents and form of government were based upon.
My fear is that they will have to learn it all over again on their own, the hard way.
Protestant Latins are almost always conservatives. BTW, why is it that Italians are not considered Latins here? Aren’t they actually the ORIGINAL Latins?
I hate the writer of this column. I say we all pool our money and kill him.
“some say 34 million”
It’s certainly 34 million illegal aliens. And that’s just the initial number.
In the mid 2000s a Wall Street firm ran its own illegal alien census. Not for politics but to get an accurate count for one of its clients.
They came up with an illegal alien population just shy of 30 million- at a time when the political hacks of both parties were still trumpeting “11 million illegal aliens”.
Judging from our experience with the 1986 Amnesty the total number of resulting immigrants will be triple the number first given amnesty. Family reunification and all that.
So the real number being brought into the United States will be 102,000,000. About one third of the American population.
This of course will permanently alter the composition of the American people. A matter of utter indifference to the GOP establishment and a goal eagerly sought by America haters of Obama’s ilk.
How long to get this to the Supreme Court for overturning?
Won't happen.
But suppose it did?
Obama would dedicate exactly what resources to complying?
Hell, HOW COULD he even comply?
I am sincerely interested if big money wants to truly educated these people. Warren Buffet, Soros and the big boys are pro-illegal immigration, so I don’t think so.
Koch?
(And with your fluency, you are an ace in the hole)
Put down by posters? I had an outright confrontation with a Stormfront poser today by the name of Iching going off on racial superiority. My point being that culture is the primary mechanism for enabling conservatism and conservative thought.
And your experience is very much like mine. At the root, Hispanics are social conservatives and value independence.
I think they’re also going to start becoming fiscal conservatives.
A lot of these people are on the very front lines of a miserable economy; and that misery has been very prolonged.
They are NOT stupid!
One answer to this nonsense: Mexifornia.
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