Posted on 09/14/2014 9:32:26 AM PDT by jazusamo
Turkey has made a decision to not only refuse to join the broad coalition against ISIS that President Obama promised Wednesday night is more than just a major slap in face for Obama and America. It also presents an obstacle to the success of the presidents promised degradation and destruction of the caliphate. As The Wall Street Journal notes:
Was it only a week ago that Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel listed a "core coalition" of 10 countries willing to join the U.S. effort to destroy the Islamic State? Since then Britain has categorically ruled out military strikes in Syria, while Germany has ruled out any use of force. Now Turkey is bugging out.
The Turkish abdication goes a step further than the Brits or Germans. Not only will Ankara take no military action, it will also forbid the U.S. from using the U.S. air base in Incirliklocated fewer than 100 miles from the Syrian borderto conduct air strikes against the terrorists. That will complicate the Pentagon's logistical and reconnaissance challenges, especially for a campaign that's supposed to take years.
Turkey is behaving more as an opponent than an ally:
the reality [is] a Turkish government that is a member of NATO but long ago stopped acting like an ally of the U.S. or a friend of the West. Former U.S. Ambassador to Turkey Francis Ricciardone declared this week that the Turkish government "frankly worked" with the al-Nusrah Frontthe al Qaeda affiliate in Syriaalong with other terrorist groups...
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
Also remember that Turkey fears an independent Kurdistan. ISIS had been busy slaughtering kurds amongst others. It wouldn’t make sense for them to work against ISIS when they are doing their dirty work for them.
If Obama and the DC crowd were serious about stopping ISIS, they'd be supporting Assad and letting Russia defend the that eastern tier of Ukraine. Obama is doing everything wrong, and nobody in DC has the integrity to stop him. They're too involved in two games...(1)power and wealth to their globalist sponsors and (2) having a really good campaign issue.
Beyond disgusted
Turkey may well become an ally of the IS—They have not been a friend of the US for quite some time.
Correct! That was the beginning of the errors committed by the U.S.
The only president that did the right thing after that was Reagan, who bombed Gaddafi’s compound and left it at that.
The only solution now is the complete annihilation of the members of the peaceful religion (or saving some by conversion, which is unlikely).
We have the technology.
I would all be for using it.
Gotta be careful - - every thug in the world knows Obama’s going to be in office only another two years. The world's monsters are chomping at the bit to make moves... If we're stretched too thin it won't just be Taiwan and Europe that go down - it could be us too....
Can’t believe anyone ever proposed letting the Turks into the EU, let alone Germany and other countries importing thousands of them as residents. (Scratch that last espostulation; we’ve been importing thousands of mohammedans since Bush II and before.)
We don’t know what we don’t know and should avoid believing the propaganda Obama distributes via his MSM minions.
The opinion in this piece is mostly based on not really knowing as well.
What about it?
Makes you wonder if Turkey will split up in the future.
The Islamic Brotherhood has been outlawed in Egypt.
Make your points, fine, make up stuff, not so fine.
Even worse, the 4thID was supposed to invade Iraq from the north via Turkey. I think they were about a month late getting into battle as a result.
You probably should consult a map.
The Kurds most emphatically do not support Erdogan and his Islamists. In fact have carried out terror attacks against his campaign events. The Kurds vote for BDP which is a secular, socialist party.
The Kurds are strongest in the south east of the country (green). Erdogan's AKP party is the yellow/brown. The party of Ataturk (CHP) is the red.
Just checked the map. Turkey has the southern coast of the Black Sea, with easy access into Greece. Russia’s a strong buffer on the north. Ukraine can’t be depended on. To keep access to Europe from Turkey through the Black Sea, you need Russia. Who stops an ISIS with access to both the Med and the Black Sea?
If Turkey is allowed to become a member of the EU, however, then Europe is likely lost anyway.
As the think-tankers like to say: Who lost Turkey? In a nutshell: Kemal Ataturk. Since he founded post-Ottoman Turkey in his own image nearly nine decades ago, the population has increased from 14 million to over 70 million. But that five-fold increase is not evenly distributed. The short version of Turkish demographics in the 20th century is that Rumelian Turkey i.e., western, European, secular, Kemalist Turkey has been outbred by Anatolian Turkey i.e., eastern, rural, traditionalist, Islamic Turkey. Ataturk and most of his supporters were from Rumelia, and they imposed the modern Turkish republic on a reluctant Anatolia, where Ataturks distinction between the state and Islam was never accepted. Now they dont have to accept it. The swelling population has spilled out of its rural hinterland and into the once solidly Kemalist cities.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/229901/israel-turkey-and-end-stability/mark-steyn
Good post.
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