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Michael Brown Shooting: Is 6 Shots Normal for Police Use of Force?
Christian Post ^ | 08/19/2014 | Samuel Smith

Posted on 08/19/2014 1:40:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

After a preliminary autopsy revealed that teenager Michael Brown was shot at least six times to the front of his body by a Ferguson, Missouri police officer on Aug. 9, a retired Baltimore City police officer who was involved in six individual use-of-force shootings in his 12-year law enforcement career, told The Christian Post Monday that, in general, six shots is not an overly excessive amount of shots for officers to take when trying to take down an assailant and protect themselves.

Robert Yamin, who was forced to retire on disability from the Baltimore City Police Department after being shot by an assailant with his own weapon, said that police officers must do whatever they can to ensure their safety once they get into an altercation and the assailant doesn't let up.

"It appears without having any real knowledge, just based on theory, that the officer was justified. The amount of bullets fired, you shoot whatever you need to stop the incident," Yamin said. "Until he stops coming at you. You keep shooting"

Yamin added that in split-second incidents, police don't cock their gun but instead fire all the way through meaning the shots will be less accurate because it requires more pressure to fire the weapon. When dealing with high intensity situations, it is in the officer's best interest to fire multiple times because these situations tend to happen so fast.

"The whole incident probably took place in two seconds, maybe three," Yamin speculated. "You can imagine what it would be like to go through four seconds of not knowing whether you are going to live or die, and it is all based on what you do in the next two or three seconds so you are making a decision, just split second."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: ferguson; michaelbrown; missouri
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Brown family attorney Daryl Parks points on an autopsy diagram to the head wound that was likely fatal to Michael Brown during a news conference in Ferguson, Missouri, Aug. 18, 2014. The family of Michael Brown, an 18-year-old teenager shot dead by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, paid for an independent autopsy which was carried out by Dr. Michael Baden, former chief medical examiner for the City of New York.
1 posted on 08/19/2014 1:40:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The basic rule of thumb is "If they keep coming, you keep shooting."
2 posted on 08/19/2014 1:42:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The man who damns money obtained it dishonorably; the man who respects it earned it." --Ayn Rand)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes - somebody that big high on pot and the cop with a girlie 9mm??


3 posted on 08/19/2014 1:42:14 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just to inflame the vigilantes....


4 posted on 08/19/2014 1:42:19 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: SeekAndFind

yes you shot until they stop coming at you.
When a 6 ft 4 inch nearly 300 piund guy is attacking you I guarantee I would unload until he stopped, and four in the arm is not going to make him stop.
So the media needs to back off trying to convict this cop and get back to the ral questions.
This guy was on drugs, attacking a store clerk, robbing a store and attacking a cop in 10 minutes.
Them thugs come out to rob, and riot, to shot at cops, throw bricks and bottles, and somehow these idiots in the media would rather blame whitey cop


5 posted on 08/19/2014 1:43:39 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

6 shots is very low for police use of force. Most I read about involve a magazine dump at least.


6 posted on 08/19/2014 1:43:42 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: SeekAndFind
If that's what it takes, that's what it takes.


7 posted on 08/19/2014 1:43:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"in split-second incidents, police don't cock their gun but instead fire all the way through meaning the shots will be less accurate because it requires more pressure to fire the weapon"

Was he using a revolver? This is news!

8 posted on 08/19/2014 1:43:59 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

exactly
You shoot until they drop, four in the arm is not going to stop a guy that big


9 posted on 08/19/2014 1:44:18 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is unusual is that the cop actually HIT him 6 times. Under intense pressure, many people can barely manage a 10% hit/miss ratio.


10 posted on 08/19/2014 1:44:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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Well, you know Bloomberg would be happy with 6 shots. He wants to limit guns to 7, so this cop gave him a bonus round.


11 posted on 08/19/2014 1:44:54 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: SeekAndFind

that’s why I keep the 15 shot mag in my Ruger SR40C and the 9 shot mag as the back up.

For those times when 5 shots from my .38 Special might not be enough


12 posted on 08/19/2014 1:44:56 PM PDT by digger48
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The basic rule of thumb is "If they keep coming, you keep shooting."

Doesn't get more simple than that.

13 posted on 08/19/2014 1:45:01 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not to mention that the cop has a busted face and he’s wired up. It takes what it takes to stop the brute force attack of a 6’2” 275lb savage.


14 posted on 08/19/2014 1:45:09 PM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think when they choose to pull the weapon out it is to stop a threat and it is not unusual to empty the whole clip to make sure the threat doesn’t prevent them from going home to their family.

Not a popular view with some, but it does make sense and the way it is.


15 posted on 08/19/2014 1:45:33 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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“Yamin added that in split-second incidents, police don’t cock their gun but instead fire all the way through”
The article said this Yamin guy was a retired police officer. He must have retired a long time ago because that stuff he is saying applies only to revolvers.


16 posted on 08/19/2014 1:46:16 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: SkyDancer

Uh, that “girlie” 9mm did the job.


17 posted on 08/19/2014 1:46:40 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

About 50 pounds per 1/4 oz bullet. Sounds about right.


18 posted on 08/19/2014 1:46:58 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: SeekAndFind

They should probably shoot him again just to make sure.


19 posted on 08/19/2014 1:47:00 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Don’t forget the Officer just got a punch to the head ,vision could have been affected


20 posted on 08/19/2014 1:47:04 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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