Let me guess: Kennedy the Idiot caved again.
But, can we buy ammo “for” the enemies of the Constitution?
Earlier article and comments (not duplicate)
Supreme Court rules on ‘straw purchaser’ gun law
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3168374/posts
Guns are the ONLY consumer product, the ownership of which is protected by the bill of rights. So does that mean we can no longer buy ANYTHING for someone else?
This is really incredible. Kennedy screwed us.
Kennedy, Breyer, Ginsburg, Kagen and Soto-Mayor voted together and Scalia, Thomas, Roberts and Alitto voted against them.
Lemme see now, a law-abiding parent cannot buy a gun for any of their adult, law-abiding children.
That means that THE NINE SUPREMES have decreed that buy a gun for their children, but can they “Gift” said purchased gun to their children?
In one of the most specifically focused decisions in Supreme Court history, Obamacare was swung by Chief Justice John Roberts.
So TIME magazine declares the deciding vote was Kennedy.
Hey, it’s only words. And the magazine is for liberals. So as Hillary said, “what difference does it make?”
It’s crazy and shows how they are making wrong decisions. Looks like someone doesn’t want mama or daddy to buy for a kid in the family. This court is mostly control freaks. Here it goes again, government knows best/controlling the citizen.
Not quite. The plaintiff lied on a federal form. Answer to the problem? Don’t sign federal forms. Q.E.D.
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Yellow Journalism. That is not what the SCOTUS decision said.
BUT...I can buy a gun today, and then put it up for sale tomorrow with no restriction as to how much may sell the gun for, or to whom I may sell the gun to.
Does this mean that a father can’t give his teenage kid a .22 for Christmas or his birthday?
“The Law” is an idiot.
Ignore it.
I recently bought a pistol (a 45 longcolt Single Action Army) with my ‘unlimited-purchase’ North Carolina CCW and gave it to my stepfather as a present.
And it ain’t nobody’s stinkin business if I do it again today and again tomorrow.
-PJ
I know I go off half-informed on occasion, but this case is not about buying a firearm for your son, wife DIL, SIL Uncle etc., it is about being paid money to do so as a favor if you will for another who is completely able to do so himself ( proper English usage rules apply to this personal pronoun for you liberals). That is what is being argued (ruled on). I disagree, but anyway.
You can lawfully buy a firearm and give it to anyone whom you will (beware the law concerning giving/gifting loaning providing access to prohibited person though).
I personally recommend that you ask the big three whenever thinking of offering a firearm to someone whom you do not already know the answers (reasonably):
1. Have you ever been charged or convicted of a felony or Misdemeanor crime of Domestic violence/or other than honorably discharged from the military?
2. Are you addicted to drugs or mentally incompetent per a court? And finally,
3. Do you advocate the violent overthrow of the US government?
A Yes or significant hesitation equates to me not allowing possession or access to arms or ammunition, sorry.
And yes, I do ask both friends and clients these questions (clients get to sign a complete affidavit prior to being enrolled in any firearms or security training/tactics.
The last firearm I sold privately- the guy about reneged after seeing the certification documents I required of him (his signature required etc.).
While I find the concept of not being able to lawfully buy something for someone else when that someone else lawfully could obtain it himself to be stupid and statist, I am not so surprised.
The de facto definition of a “straw man purchase”, just usually the true buyer often is not eligible.....
Before you flame me, I am of the opinion that every man ought to be armed, and so logically mitigate the risk of finding oneself unable to defend self, family and the public from those who are evil/nuts and will always find a way to obtain the legally unobtainable....
Cops are not there when you want them to be anyway.
This judicial action is unconstitutional, and will not
fly, because this is a States Right issue.
Grandpa buying a firearm for grandson’s birthday
has now been deemed illegal.
So, Grandpa buys the firearm, and sells it to the
grandson’s dad, for a buck, with bill of sale,
and grandson still gets the birthday present!
The law is an ass and so are its supporters.
From Scotus blog.
Opinion analysis: No stand-in gun buyers allowed
By Lyle Denniston on Jun 16, 2014 at 2:03 pm
Analysis
An individual cannot walk into a gun dealer’s shop and buy a gun for someone else by claiming to be the actual buyer, a deeply split Supreme Court ruled on Monday. A form demanding to know who the actual purchaser is, the majority ruled, has to be answered truthfully, or else the transaction is illegal.
Justice Kagan with opinion in firearm straw purchaser case. (Art Lien)
The practical effect of the ruling is likely to be shutting down, or at least cutting back on, an active market in gun-buying by “straw purchasers” — that is, mere stand-ins for the real buyers. The Court cited data that about half of all federal investigations of illegal gun trafficking involve such purchasers. “Deliverymen, after all, are not so hard to come by,” the Court majority remarked.
The ruling was limited to an analysis of the scope of a federal criminal law. There was no claim of interference with the right under the Second Amendment to have a gun for personal use.
Sohhhh, lemme see if I got this:
I can buy liquor and cigarettes for another law abiding American?
I can buy a car for another Law Abiding American?
I can buy a plane or even a home for another law abiding American?
In fact, even if the person I was buying this for is a former a felon I can purchase anything for them, including real property?
But, I am barred from buying a fellow American a gun, who has no criminal record, to speak of?
YOU! Are out of your effing mind kuh ray zee....