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OK Brat wins in VA, BUT what the HELL happened in SC??!!
11 June 2014 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 06/11/2014 5:32:28 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

DAMMIT South Carolina, CLOSE YOUR PRIMARIES!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; southcarolina; vanity
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To: Viennacon

…I’m not being ugly, but I do want to know what you mean by Bright bungled it. That’s not my take, and I’ve been pretty close to this race. I am legitimately interested in what would fuel your opinion. You may have a point….something I missed.


21 posted on 06/11/2014 5:46:00 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Not so— it was “anybody but Graham”— I believe democrats came to save Lindsey’s pansy a$$. Lets see if any candidate is fronted by the Dems for his seat this fall.


22 posted on 06/11/2014 5:47:05 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Betty Jane

Time for a third party.


23 posted on 06/11/2014 5:47:39 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: US Navy Vet

When you go to vote in SC you produce a photo ID. Once you are located on the roll they ask you if you wish to vote on the Republican or Democrat ticket. You tell them your choice, sign one of two sheets, and are given a colored card according to the sheet you sign. You give this card to the poll worker who authorizes the machine for your chosen ticket.

Going by the number of signatures on the sheets the ratio at my polling location was 3 to 1 Republican.

I voted for Lee Bright. There weren’t enough people like me.


24 posted on 06/11/2014 5:49:54 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Viennacon

Well, there’s a difference between lack of success and bungle. Sometimes the cards are just stacked. For one thing, Cochran is no where near as good a campaigner as Graham. It’s not even close. His team stinks too.

And Bright did get some good early endorsements…..all gun groups but NRA, the National Republican Liberty Caucus (Cruz and Lee related group), most local TP groups in SC. But no big names would come in and endorse. Talk radio did not get involved. (rumors that LG and Laura had a thing once…)

Consider this: Bright was outspent by everyone but Dunn (who got 1%). He still doubled up his nearest competitor. With a push from talk radio or some outside money, he could have countered Grahams clever Obama Care ads, and hammered amnesty. That would have kept Graham under 50. But he had zero help from national talkers or PACs.


25 posted on 06/11/2014 5:50:20 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: US Navy Vet

There’s a reason SC has the “Corridor of Shame”.


26 posted on 06/11/2014 5:50:27 AM PDT by moovova
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To: US Navy Vet

It’s really too bad that those with the lowest numbers stayed in, but then who knows that Graham didn’t offer a “carrot” to them to stay in the race to keep the person closest to him from getting close enough for a run-off. I’m sorry to have to say this, but it shows that we really need to vet candidates better. A couple weeks out from a race, one needs to be able to assess the situation and make decisions. The fact that so many were polling so low, but still didn’t drop out and throw their support to a better candidate tells me a lot about them. It’s still about THEM, and not what is best for the state/country. And, the voters SHOULD be able to see that a candidate running in 4th, 5th or 6th place is a wasted vote. They are as much to blame as the candidates.


27 posted on 06/11/2014 5:50:41 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Mamzelle

Democrats out was a factor. Did it get him over 50%? Hard to tell.


28 posted on 06/11/2014 5:51:01 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: US Navy Vet

Aren’t the primaries in VA open as well? I was reading an article on the way into work saying that democrats in VA were celebrating because they turned out to beat Cantor in order to beat Brat in the general election. Is this the case?


29 posted on 06/11/2014 5:51:37 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Shery

There was a clear leading challenger from the start almost. And it was borne out last night. Clearly.


30 posted on 06/11/2014 5:51:42 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: thefactor

If VA democrats helped Cantor, that will backfire on them. Cantor’s loss dooms immigration reform, which all those Dems wanted.

With a 12 point margin, I doubt it was a major factor. Tactical voting is a good story, ususally backed up by teeny numbers.


31 posted on 06/11/2014 5:52:48 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: ilovesarah2012
May have been a different outcome if there had only been one (against Graham)

Constitutional conservatives win when they develop a strong, principled ability to articulate the issues. Our side has to be better, MUCH BETTER than the opponent. Nobody developed that strong voice against Graham, so Graham won.

TV news was funny this morning. The analysts are still in denial that a big part of it is that a majority of people want to not just stop, but reverse, the invasion of the US.

Their bogus polls ask people "do you favor immigration reform" which is a trick question. The reform people want is to enforce the laws we already have. I do think the spectre of those caged invader children who the DC-Chamber of Commerce crowd want to keep here was just too much, and Cantor has been a sellout on the invasion.

32 posted on 06/11/2014 5:53:46 AM PDT by grania
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To: Viennacon
McDaniel came out of the gate and locked up serious national endorsements very quickly.

I believe that the fact that there were so many challengers running scared the national organizations away from picking one to back. I presume they held their gunpowder to see if any got to a run-off. Not Bright's fault at all imho.

This was exacerbated by Bright’s financial problems which involved an underwater trucking business ...

Bright addressed these issues and didn't shy away from it. He was elected to the State Senate with these financial problems as a part of his history.

33 posted on 06/11/2014 5:53:48 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

The simple answer.

State vs Cong. Dist.


34 posted on 06/11/2014 5:54:05 AM PDT by Bidimus1
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To: Viennacon

Another thing….Graham did a lot of behind the scenes stuff to prevent endorsements. This is a powerful powerful insider, and he “has ways” to make “offers people can’t refuse” - if you know what I mean.

There are 2-3-4 people you thought might challenge Graham, and who would endorse Bright - who didn’t. There’s a story behind all of them.

Cochran carries no such sway in Miss, and/or did not use it. Graham did immediately.


35 posted on 06/11/2014 5:55:05 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (www.FireKarlRove.com NOW)
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To: cotton1706

How bad is the Democrat?


36 posted on 06/11/2014 5:55:10 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: US Navy Vet
Yep,

How Lindsey Graham Stomped the Tea Party(Grahamnesty gloats and so are the libs) Jun 10 2014,

37 posted on 06/11/2014 5:55:57 AM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: dforest

The problem is sorting out the wheat egos from the chaff egos.

The various candidates are so narrow in their strong beliefs that they all run believing them selves to be the Conservative Messiah

Most of their differences are so narrow they don’t matter but the candidates will not accept that point.


38 posted on 06/11/2014 5:56:06 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
The exact quote from the article, "Turnout was up 38% over last year after calls went out from prominent Democrats...to vote against Cantor in the Republican race."

Their ultimate goal is to show how "crazy the Teahaddists are."

Article is from the NY Post.

39 posted on 06/11/2014 5:56:52 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Savage Beast

“How bad is the Democrat?”

His name is Brad Hutto. He’d probably be more conservative than Graham on some things, and on other he’d probably vote the party line.

Up to South Carolina.


40 posted on 06/11/2014 5:56:52 AM PDT by cotton1706 (ThisRepublic.net)
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