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Dogs are NOT descended from modern wolves but split from common ancestor 34,000 years ago
Daily Mail ^ | 16 January 2014 | SARAH GRIFFITHS

Posted on 01/16/2014 9:01:52 PM PST by Fractal Trader

Dogs and wolves evolved from a common ancestor between 11,000 and 34,000 years ago, according to new research.

U.S. scientists said that part of the genetic overlap observed between some modern dogs and wolves is the result of interbreeding after dog domestication and not a direct line of descent from one group of wolves. They believe their research reflects a more complicated history than the popular story that early farmers adopted a few docile, friendly wolves that later became our modern canine companions.

Dogs and wolves evolved from a common ancestor between 11,000 and 34,000 years ago but modern canines are more closely related to each other than to wolves, according to new research

Dogs and wolves evolved from a common ancestor between 11,000 and 34,000 years ago but modern canines are more closely related to each other than to wolves, according to new research Instead, the earliest dogs may have first lived among hunter-gatherer societies and adapted to agricultural life later, according to the study which is published in the journal PLoS Genetics.

Researchers from the University of Chicago said that dogs are more closely related to each other than to wolves, regardless of geographic origin as they do not descend from a single line of wolves.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afteritskind; agriculture; animalhusbandry; dietandcuisine; dog; dogs; domestication; evolution; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; wolves
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To: Salamander

Evenin’ everybody....;)


61 posted on 01/17/2014 4:17:13 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Evenin’ everybody....;)”

/Salamander looks behind her to see if there’s a crowd hiding back there, somewhere.

;D


62 posted on 01/17/2014 4:23:08 PM PST by Salamander (Sleeping don't come very easy in a strait white vest.)
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To: Salamander

Cadaver eyes upon me see....nothing......

;)


63 posted on 01/17/2014 4:27:02 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

But I have other uses for them...darling.

[and a thread jumps the rails...again]

:D


64 posted on 01/17/2014 5:58:57 PM PST by Salamander (Sleeping don't come very easy in a strait white vest.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

All I’m saying is I wish everyone would stop repeating uncertified things.

You don’t have to cuss at me. Sorry if I seemed a bit overbearing.


65 posted on 01/18/2014 7:49:32 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


66 posted on 01/18/2014 3:04:59 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

Study Reveals More Clues to Origins of Domesticated Dog
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3092470/posts


67 posted on 01/20/2014 9:08:26 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks Fractal Trader.

68 posted on 01/20/2014 9:09:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

My own take on the 7-day creation is that days 1-5 took several billion years and days 6-7 took at least half a million years. Eden is somewhere in Mesopotamia where humans became self-aware.


69 posted on 01/20/2014 10:05:05 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: sodpoodle

I would add that it wasn’t so much a domestication as it was the development of a symbiotic relationship.


70 posted on 01/20/2014 10:07:22 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Salamander; the OlLine Rebel
Jack Frost is nippin' at his nose -

So let's get that beer nippin' at his liver!

71 posted on 01/20/2014 10:17:42 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Norm Lenhart; Salamander; the OlLine Rebel

"Who's Yer Daddy?

"?"


72 posted on 01/20/2014 10:22:25 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: alexander_busek

Yes. There arguments appears to be nonsensical.

It appears dogs derived from a wolf population 39,000 years ago and they then evolved along an isolated line with periodic outbreedings with wolf populations.

Ergo, they ARE domesticated wolves. To my knowledge, the only other wolf species in that time frame was the Dire Wolf, and clearly dogs are not related to them, but rather to the grey wolf.


73 posted on 01/21/2014 2:24:06 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: a fool in paradise

"Take me to your leader!"


"What - HIM? You've GOT to be kidding!"


74 posted on 01/21/2014 2:46:00 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Revolting cat!
Let’s see, Mother Earth is 6,245 years old, as of last October, Funky Fundie Theologians tell us, which means these dogs must have come from another planet. ALIENS!

Don't be rude. Someday they'll discover that carbon dating has been wrong the whole time it's been used. "Funky Fundies" will have the last laugh.

75 posted on 01/21/2014 4:24:21 AM PST by madison10
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To: Squawk 8888

I agree. Probably much like the behavior of the modern day squirrels, foxes and ground-hogs who congregate around food sources. I truly believe there are many extinct ‘canine’ species which have not been discovered which might explain the variety of physical appearance in modern dog breeds.


76 posted on 01/21/2014 7:44:44 AM PST by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: madison10; Revolting cat!

No, in fact, “they” won’t. Radiocarbon dating has a range of only 50,000 years, calibration ie refinement using tree rings to find the slight fluctuations in C14 goes back perhaps 10,000, and beyond that other deposits accumulated year by year, such as coral reefs and stalactites/stalagmite reach back a bit more. Other forms of radiometric dating have other, sometimes overlapping ranges.


77 posted on 01/21/2014 4:40:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Varda

Thanks for the link. This is one of those scientific articles where the genius comes out in the basic design of the study. Truly fascinating.


78 posted on 01/21/2014 8:17:42 PM PST by AndyJackson
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