Posted on 09/20/2013 6:49:48 AM PDT by schmootman
SNIP Six months into his papacy, Pope Francis sent shock waves through the Roman Catholic church on Thursday with the publication of his remarks that the church had grown “obsessed” with abortion, gay marriage and contraception, and that he had chosen not to talk about those issues despite recriminations from critics.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
What was that saying ... “Let he who is without sin ...”?
Seems to me like the MSM is doing their typical fast-and-loose translation from the original Italian.
I read the interview. I may have missed it because it is long, but don’t see that the Pope used the word obsessed like the NYT says he did. Anyone else got more info?
Im not Catholic.
I dont get why “popes” take on new names when they are elevated to the CEO position within the Catholic chirch...
I dont get why Catholic Church took so long to use the ENGLISH LANGUAGE in English speaking societies...
My list of “don’t get”s goes on and on
In the mainstream Church, I’ve only heard one homily that referenced contraception, and that was in the early 1990’s( a very courageous young priest at a Saturday Evening Mass; you know that would he said didn’t go over well with the flock!). I’ve heard condemnations of contraception at Latin Masses celebrated by groups like the Fraternity of St. Peter, but those priests were preaching to the choir.
Well, at least I am not the only “curious” one then.
Thanks for your reply.
“This MAN is turning out to be a buffoon.”
Bingo! The term ‘false Prophet’ comes to mind.
This dude is a serious dissappouintment
“obsessed” with the vicious murder of children?
Yes, if you want to call it that
“The Pope is, I think, speaking without regard as to how his words will be misconstrued by the mass media.”
Then he should shut his mouth. He has done the same kind of speaking multiple times now. There is a pattern emerging, and it isn’t a good one for Catholicism.
The left intentionally leaves the right with two alternatives - fight or surrender. The Pope seems to be endorsing the latter.
I have never been given an adequate answer as to why Catholics..Pray to Mary. which would be Most Unbiblical.
This Pope, and here I must admit little knowledge of previous popes... seems to be far more concerned with “liberal” social issues than the GOSPEL
“1. Why do y’all call pope “Holy” “Father” even with capital H and F? Being a non-Catholic, I don’t understand how a person, an elected/selected(?) official of a church organization, could be addressed as such. To me, there is only one Holy Father and He is our God.
2. Why do you pray TO saints? After all, they were human beings here. I pray only to God in Jesus’ Name.
3. My neighbor told me that she does not believe Jesus had brothers. I don’t want to get into a religious discussion with a neighbor, so I don’t ask her.”
You don’t believe these things because you are not Catholic. So stay not Catholic and you won’t have to worry about any of the above.
Is Francis, "Peter the Roman" ??shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
I’d like to know the Italian word he that was translated as “obsessed”. Sometimes the underlying intent gets lost in traslation.
2. Why do you pray TO saints? After all, they were human beings here. I pray only to God in Jesus’ Name.
Do you recite a creed which includes a belief in "the communion of saints?" If so, that will be good common ground for understanding. Just as we ask each other in the flesh for prayers (the Church Militant), so we do with those we believe to already be in Heaven (the Church Triumphant)... we are asking for their spiritual support. Even when it comes to the much-maligned "Hail Mary", we ask Her to "... pray for us sinners now and at the hour of death."
3. My neighbor told me that she does not believe Jesus had brothers. I don’t want to get into a religious discussion with a neighbor, so I don’t ask her.
The early Church Fathers (who were closer to the actual events) declared that Jesus had no brothers or sisters through Mary. That isn't to say that Joseph didn't have children prior to his betrothal to Mary (he was fairly old) or cousins. In the Aramaic, these relationships don't have unique identifications... they are simply siblings of some relation.
I hope this helps and that I have not written anything that would cause someone to stumble. Please forgive typos... on an iPhone.
Yes. So does another person, namely Christ Jesus. Have you ever heard His scathing words to the Scribes and the Pharisees who were "actually trying to abide by their moral principles?" Self-attained moral uprightness only goes so far, but the forgiveness of sin in Christ Jesus for poor sinners - including those who by all accounts are "on the other side" - lifts a broken body of death into the highest heaven. "But go and learn what this means: 'I desire mercy and not sacrifice.'"
I invite you to my homepage (click my name) for more topics from previous threads. These things tend to repeat on here.
1. Revelation 15:4, Isaiah 40:25, Psalm 111:19, Matthew 23:9
2. 1 Timothy 2:5, 1 John 2:1, John 14:13-14
3. Mark 3:31-34
The Times would have you think the Pope is okay with gay marred priests paying for abortions.
Plenty of Libs like to remind me that Jesus went to me sinners. They conveniently forget the part where he urges them to turn away from sin. He didn't condemn the adulterer -- but he did tell her to go and sin no more.
Whoa! Haven't you heard that the Pope is infallible? Everything he says comes directly from the mouth of God. /sarcasm
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