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Day 15 (Week #3) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 28, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 06/28/2013 5:14:39 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, June 28th, is DAY #15 (of 3rd week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case. [Yesterday] … it was simply not a very good day at all for the prosecution. The primary State witnesses today were Rachel Jeantel, Jenna Lauer, and Selma Mora.

The first had her credibility substantively destroyed, the second was powerfully–almost humiliatingly–co-opted by the defense, and the third provided testimony entirely consistent with the defense’s theory of lawful self-defense. (continue reading)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: florida; floridojudicirats; georgezimmerman; kangaroo; kangaroocourt; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: CA Conservative; AllAmericanGirl44

>> Theoretically, a jury could determine that the shooting was not in self-defense, but did not have all of the required elements of Murder 2... In that case, they could convict on manslaughter.

OK, that makes sense too.


841 posted on 06/28/2013 12:34:43 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick
LOL! Dang! You TM’d it!

Feel free to use it Tick...lol

842 posted on 06/28/2013 12:35:35 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SteveH
:the odd civility between BDLR and MOM that pops up from time

Lay people and clients always find it weird that the warring laweyrs can be civil to each other, but is actually the way it is supposed to be. The parties may hate each other, but the lawyers are supposed to conduct themselves professionally. It is not personal to them or should not be at any rate.

843 posted on 06/28/2013 12:35:57 PM PDT by lawdave
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To: Nervous Tick

At the time, my very good lawyer informed me that the only offense the law could use against me was discharging a firearm in town limits. They never even did that.


844 posted on 06/28/2013 12:36:24 PM PDT by soycd
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To: Fawn
WHAT??? You mean they can change the charges in midstream?? It’s like they are saying...”Gee we can’t get him for this, lets try to get him for this”. This can be changed in mid trial? HOW UNFAIR is that????

In a case like this, there are often "lesser included charges". Manslaughter is a lesser included charge to Murder 2. Murder 2 means you intentionally kill someone with malice, but not pre-meditated (That would be Murder 1.) Manslaughter means you killed someone without a legal justification, but not with malice. Involuntary manslaughter is when you accidentally kill someone.

845 posted on 06/28/2013 12:36:26 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: lawdave

Tim Smith great witness for defense


846 posted on 06/28/2013 12:36:35 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

“Omara has opened the door to the gun being seen by Thug by virtue of Zimmerman moving”

I was wondering if he would ask if the cop had time to put rubber/latex gloves on before he handled the gun.


847 posted on 06/28/2013 12:36:49 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: All

YAY! POint was made and explained about him being ‘calm’. Not unusual behavior. Thank you officer.


848 posted on 06/28/2013 12:36:50 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Hulka
And, she was appointed by Jeb Bush. The Bushes pick weaselly judges. Think Roberts.
849 posted on 06/28/2013 12:37:38 PM PDT by Bronzy
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To: advertising guy

Are you getting the actual National News TV on air program? I don’t think so. you are getting there internet coverage fulltime court feed.
Judge Alex Ferrer is doing the on air crtique of the trial. That is what i”m going to from time to time.
I’m 10 miles from Sanford and all our locals are in full coverage.


850 posted on 06/28/2013 12:37:40 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: Fawn

>> You mean they can change the charges in midstream??

I don’t think it’s that simple... relax, and don’t forget we’re just a bunch of (mostly) non-lawyers on an internet forum hatching plausible-sounding hypotheses — maybe NONE of ‘em are accurate! :-)


851 posted on 06/28/2013 12:37:54 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Did not come across as cavalier?

Could not ask Rachel that. Too many syllables


852 posted on 06/28/2013 12:38:04 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Nervous Tick
If GZ was an out of control vigilante who was just itching to shoot someone would he, (1) first call and report the suspicious person to the police and, (2) wear clothing that would make him easily visible which would make it harder for him to sneak up on someone?

Obvious answer: NO.

853 posted on 06/28/2013 12:38:11 PM PDT by JPG (Stay strong.)
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To: Fawn

tim smith provides proof of excited utterance...


854 posted on 06/28/2013 12:38:12 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Political Junkie Too

This is the perfect liberal trial. It’s so obvious Zimmerman was beat up when he fired, yet the state is still trying to prove what? That the injured guy was injuring the uninjured guy?

It’s quite ludicrous to charge Zimmerman with murder in this case, which is why they didn’t that night.

I think while they have a trial going they should use this Zimmerman trial to prove global warming, gay rights, immigration reform, etc. I mean, why not at this point? The evidence would be just as supportive, and liberal reporters would somehow spin it their way.


855 posted on 06/28/2013 12:38:28 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: All

YAY! Another good statement. George told Officer he was yelling for help and no one would help. George seemed very confused at why no one would help him. (Welcome to the new world of don’t get involved)


856 posted on 06/28/2013 12:39:12 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: SteveH

>> I think throwing the case by the prosecution is as likely a scenario as any

Can’t argue with you, FRiend. A strategy of “Prosecutor Nullification” would explain a certain amount of the baffling strangeness in this courtroom drama.


857 posted on 06/28/2013 12:39:42 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: don-o
Did not come across as cavalier? Could not ask Rachel that. Too many syllables

She would say that she had either eaten or driven a cava-leer.

858 posted on 06/28/2013 12:39:52 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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Confused look on his face when telling Officer Smith that he was yelling for help and no one would help him.

WOW

NBC — why don’t you play that clip on the news tonight??


859 posted on 06/28/2013 12:40:33 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: advertising guy

You’ve heard of driving-while-black, right? GZ’s crime was carrying-while-white-hispanic. /s


860 posted on 06/28/2013 12:40:36 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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