Bagram Airfield Crash 29 APR 2013 (Dash Cam Video)

LiveLeak.com ^ | 4/30/2013

[South40]

A civilian cargo plane crash at Bagram Air Field north of Kabul in Afghanistan has killed seven people.

Video Here

[Big Giant Head]

I read earlier that they believe the load broke loose. They speculated that it was a relatively light load, so the aircraft could perform a steeper climbout, which caused the loading straps to break. That sounds very plausible, or they could have had a runaway trim possibly. Very sad.

[Bob Buchholz]

Can we be sure Ron Brown wasn’t on board?

[American Constitutionalist]

You got that right.
A very steep angle of attack for any commercial jetliner.
Yes it could have been a load shift. But ? remember about 10 years ago a military B-52 was flying around at a air force base and the pilot was playing around trying to be a top gun and banked to steep and the plane lost lift and stalled ?
It could have been anything from a load shift, a inexperienced pilot, thrust reverser ? horizontal stabilizer gone wrong ? a topgun pilot trying to be cool in trying to pull a high angle take off ?

[Mat_Helm]

Nasty, wonder if cargo shifted or they simply did not get the CG correctly set. AOA very high at point video is taken. Either loss of thrust or bad CG but as airspeed rapidly drops nose departs left and than 747 departs flight and rolls right. Passing through nose level the gear is coming back down as you see the nose gear dropping just before impact. Pilot was extending gear back down. They knew they were in real trouble. Sad to see. Prayers for the air crew and their families.

[American Constitutionalist]

Creepy isn’t it ? by the time it was about 200-300 feet off the ground it lost lift and stalled.

[Amberdawn]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2317306/Kabul-plane-crash-Video-captures-moment-plane-dropped-sky-crashing.html

Here’s another video from daily mail UK.

[holden]

The load might've conceibably been within safety limits, but the pilot may have been "flying by the seat of his/her pants" (inertial feel, muscle memory), or even been showing off, letting airspeed get too slow, straying into the "area of reverse command", where s/he probably had little experience flying the a/c.

What I saw developing in the video (before the "point of no return") would've required dramatic, counter-intuitive control inputs that some pilots would shrink from doing, never having to do them before (outside a simulator).

OTOH, there may have additionally been a contributory hardware system failure that would've been beyond any pilot's ability to overcome.

/complete speculation
HF, CFII

[Repeal The 17th]

Any one want to guess as to what went wrong?
It just stalls and falls.
So sad to see.

[American Constitutionalist]

There was a B-52 about 10 years ago that crashed at a air force base when the pilot banked to hard at a low altitude and crashed.

[Amberdawn]

I pissed that air crews feel they have to take off like that because it’s a bad neighborhood. RIP to the crew and their families. You can hear the Army guy filming in the vehicle say f**k in sadness.

[South40]

1994 Fairchild Air Force Base B-52 crash

[Red Badger]

747?........

[South40]

I pissed that air crews feel they have to take off like that because it’s a bad neighborhood.

Air crews at John Wayne Airport in Orange County, CA are required to take off like that so the rich people living in Newport Beach won't be bothered by the jet noise. It can be startling for some passengers so they are warned prior to takeoff.

[Red Badger]

looks like Unsecured cargo shifted aft during takeoff, forced stall, altitude too low to correct........

[central_va]

Departure stall due to improper loading moving CG aft?

[American Constitutionalist]

Would bird ingestion do this ?
A large foreign object into the engines ?

[Amberdawn]

That’s ridiculous as well. From what I heard, the 747 had a civilian air crew.

[KeyLargo]

Yes, definitely a stall.

[American Constitutionalist]

So it was more than 10 years ago.

Perhaps more video will come out of this crash.
Now if they have a video at the airbase of the plane taking off with a angle from the side.